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I find it laughable that you talk about democracy, and then you praise "booting out of the government" elected politicians you don't like. You're also misinfor

I find it laughable that you talk about democracy, and then you praise "booting out of the government" elected politicians you don't like. You're also misinformed about how the Italian Constitution says acts that limit freedoms should be passed which is—not how they're doing that—therefore Hitler. We'll have to wait and see. Let's see if Orban gives back his unlimited powers (might very well not be the case, no idea), and if Italy gives back citizens their freedom. I know that even 20 years after 9/11, the Patriot Act is still in effect, and Americans were not given back the freedoms they took during the emergency.

squarefoot 7y ago
"I find it laughable that you talk about democracy, and then you praise "booting out of the government" elected politicians you don't like." Using democratic power to remove democracy isn't the purpose that democratic power was intended to; the best analogy I could find is a son killing his mother. And... yes, I praised his removal because it was extremely clear what he was going to do. He asked people full powers less than one year ago. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-11/beach-boy-salvini-bids-for-full-powers-while-italy-s-on-vacation https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-11/beach-boy... He is also friends with Orban and other not-so-nice presidents around the globe. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/31/coronavirus-kills-its-first-democracy/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/31/coronavirus-... https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2020/03/30/coronavirus-salvini-defends-orban-taking-new-powers-3_6dc34421-4ae2-41eb-bda3-62af5d28029b.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2020/03/30/coronavirus-salv... I mentioned Hitler and Mussolini because what Salvini aims at doing is exactly the same: gaining control of the parliament through a mix of popular acclaim and underground extremist movements, then get full powers and kill any means of removing those powers. Fascism will return to Italy, it's just a matter of time. Incidentally, in 2022 it will be 100 years from the 1922 march on Rome, when Mussolini gained full power, so it might be a convenient (not so) casual coincidence. https://www.britannica.com/event/March-on-Rome https://www.britannica.com/event/March-on-Rome
- nkkollaw 7y ago
  > I mentioned Hitler and Mussolini because what Salvini aims at doing is exactly the same: gaining control of the parliament through a mix of popular acclaim and underground extremist movements, then get full powers and kill any means of removing those powers. Do you have anything that could even remotely give credit to that, or is that like saying he's a reptilian from Mars who will kill us all? You're just making stuff up to justify the rest of what you're saying. He called for an election because the M5S lost like 90% of support compared to the beginning, he didn't attempt a coup like you're implying. What's really using democratic power to remove democracy is the EU—which isn't democratic by design—and is and has been trying to strip power from sovereign nations. In part thanks to people like you, who look for Hitler everywhere but where you should actually look. Anyway, everyone is entitled to think whatever. I should move on to more productive things, anyway.

squarefoot 7y ago

"I find it laughable that you talk about democracy, and then you praise "booting out of the government" elected politicians you don't like." Using democratic power to remove democracy isn't the purpose that democratic power was intended to; the best analogy I could find is a son killing his mother. And... yes, I praised his removal because it was extremely clear what he was going to do. He asked people full powers less than one year ago. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-11/beach-boy-salvini-bids-for-full-powers-while-italy-s-on-vacation https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-11/beach-boy... He is also friends with Orban and other not-so-nice presidents around the globe. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/31/coronavirus-kills-its-first-democracy/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/31/coronavirus-... https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2020/03/30/coronavirus-salvini-defends-orban-taking-new-powers-3_6dc34421-4ae2-41eb-bda3-62af5d28029b.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2020/03/30/coronavirus-salv... I mentioned Hitler and Mussolini because what Salvini aims at doing is exactly the same: gaining control of the parliament through a mix of popular acclaim and underground extremist movements, then get full powers and kill any means of removing those powers. Fascism will return to Italy, it's just a matter of time. Incidentally, in 2022 it will be 100 years from the 1922 march on Rome, when Mussolini gained full power, so it might be a convenient (not so) casual coincidence. https://www.britannica.com/event/March-on-Rome https://www.britannica.com/event/March-on-Rome

nkkollaw 7y ago
> I mentioned Hitler and Mussolini because what Salvini aims at doing is exactly the same: gaining control of the parliament through a mix of popular acclaim and underground extremist movements, then get full powers and kill any means of removing those powers. Do you have anything that could even remotely give credit to that, or is that like saying he's a reptilian from Mars who will kill us all? You're just making stuff up to justify the rest of what you're saying. He called for an election because the M5S lost like 90% of support compared to the beginning, he didn't attempt a coup like you're implying. What's really using democratic power to remove democracy is the EU—which isn't democratic by design—and is and has been trying to strip power from sovereign nations. In part thanks to people like you, who look for Hitler everywhere but where you should actually look. Anyway, everyone is entitled to think whatever. I should move on to more productive things, anyway.