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Ahh yes, the old ends justifying the means.

by edoceo 7y ago

Alupis 7y ago
Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for barging into potentially sensitive meetings being conducted by businesses and world leaders[1]. If it takes a few meetings getting trolled for Zoom to finally take action, I'm not going to feel much sympathy. Just be glad trolling is all they're doing right now. So, while I'm sorry your meeting got trolled, it will just continue to happen until you get mad at the people that made it possible - Zoom. [1] https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534199808 https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534...
- YarickR2 7y ago
  I hope you're wearing a hard hat at all times; if not - then it's your fault when complete stranger smashes you with a brick. Who you will be mad at after that ?
  - c22 7y ago
    On the other hand, when I get smashed with a brick and the hard hat I'm wearing crumples like a paper bag I guess I'm still a little mad at the hard hat company?
  - buzzkillington 7y ago
    When you walk into a crocodile pit do we blame the crocodiles for eating you?
  - HarryHirsch 7y ago
    Come on, Adolf Hitler has participated in Kahoot games ever since Kahoot was invented.
    - Razengan 7y ago
      I lost track of which analogy is in favor of what and which is against.
      - HarryHirsch 7y ago
        I'm just saying that kids have been signing into Kahoot with names as Naughtius Maximus and Biggus Dickus since forever. There used to be a kahootbombing subreddid that eventually got banned. If you just have a username and no password there's problems. Why is that even news? No clue what everyone else is saying.
- tptacek 7y ago
  I'm a software developer. I would just work on some other problem amenable to software.
  - Alupis 7y ago
    Forest and trees?
buzzkillington 7y ago
I too am much happier when Chinese/Russian/French spies quietly infiltrate a presentation on power grid weak points from a mid sized private firm with no security to speak of. Trolling is gods way of teaching basic opsec to idiots.
EamonnMR 7y ago
More like second order side effects justifying obviously deviant ends.

Ahh yes, the old ends justifying the means.

by edoceo 7y ago

Ahh yes, the old ends justifying the means.

Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for barging into potentially sensitive meetings being conducted by businesses and world leaders[1]. If it takes a few meetings getting trolled for Zoom to finally take action, I'm not going to feel much sympathy. Just be glad trolling is all they're doing right now. So, while I'm sorry your meeting got trolled, it will just continue to happen until you get mad at the people that made it possible - Zoom. [1] https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534199808 https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534...

YarickR2 7y ago
I hope you're wearing a hard hat at all times; if not - then it's your fault when complete stranger smashes you with a brick. Who you will be mad at after that ?
- c22 7y ago
  On the other hand, when I get smashed with a brick and the hard hat I'm wearing crumples like a paper bag I guess I'm still a little mad at the hard hat company?
- buzzkillington 7y ago
  When you walk into a crocodile pit do we blame the crocodiles for eating you?
- HarryHirsch 7y ago
  Come on, Adolf Hitler has participated in Kahoot games ever since Kahoot was invented.
  - Razengan 7y ago
    I lost track of which analogy is in favor of what and which is against.
    - HarryHirsch 7y ago
      I'm just saying that kids have been signing into Kahoot with names as Naughtius Maximus and Biggus Dickus since forever. There used to be a kahootbombing subreddid that eventually got banned. If you just have a username and no password there's problems. Why is that even news? No clue what everyone else is saying.
tptacek 7y ago
I'm a software developer. I would just work on some other problem amenable to software.
- Alupis 7y ago
  Forest and trees?

buzzkillington 7y ago

I too am much happier when Chinese/Russian/French spies quietly infiltrate a presentation on power grid weak points from a mid sized private firm with no security to speak of. Trolling is gods way of teaching basic opsec to idiots.

EamonnMR 7y ago

More like second order side effects justifying obviously deviant ends.