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Embedded corporate interests and lobbies fighting against solutions because it'll cost them money to implement or lower their revenue once implemented. The usu

Embedded corporate interests and lobbies fighting against solutions because it'll cost them money to implement or lower their revenue once implemented. The usual.

throwaway894345 7y ago
What solutions does Europe, etc have that the US doesn't? Genuine question.
- michaelbuckbee 7y ago
  A working legislature?
  - throwaway894345 7y ago
    Clever. What solutions has said legislature come up?
    - throwaway894345 7y ago
      *come up with? (apparently I missed the edit window)
- thomasfortes 7y ago
  Don't know about Europe, in Brazil spam calls are common but you can register your number in a consumer protection organ to say that you do not want unwanted commercial calls and if you keep receiving them the companies can be fined, for me it works "ok", there still companies that don't give a shit but at least the amount of calls I receive was reduced a lot...
  - kube-system 7y ago
    The US did this before most countries, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry Most US spam calls originate outside of the US, though.
- Elv13 7y ago
  * Not directly related to SPIT (phone SPAM), but one is https://www.wired.com/story/sim-swap-fix-carriers-banks/ https://www.wired.com/story/sim-swap-fix-carriers-banks/ . * Carrier maintainer blacklists and other tools have also been used by providers for a long time. * My provider, Voip.ms, enforces a provenance whitelist by default. This block all SPIT calls coming from unspoofed caller ids. That may not sound like a lot, but yes, many of those calls are just random poeple picking their phone or mobile apps using the real phone number. Having regulation to track internal sources of SPIT (and enforcing it) helps too. * In Canada, you can subscribe to a non-telemarketing list. That doesn't help for scammer, but it helps for unsolicited ads, political spam and private surveys. This works when enforced with actual penalties for all parties involved.
  - kube-system 7y ago
    Canada's non-telemarketing list that was implemented in 2004 is essentially a copy of the US legislation that was passed the year prior. It doesn't help though, as neither the US nor Canada have jurisdiction in India, et al.

Embedded corporate interests and lobbies fighting against solutions because it'll cost them money to implement or lower their revenue once implemented. The usual.

throwaway894345 7y ago

What solutions does Europe, etc have that the US doesn't? Genuine question.

michaelbuckbee 7y ago
A working legislature?
- throwaway894345 7y ago
  Clever. What solutions has said legislature come up?
  - throwaway894345 7y ago
    *come up with? (apparently I missed the edit window)
thomasfortes 7y ago
Don't know about Europe, in Brazil spam calls are common but you can register your number in a consumer protection organ to say that you do not want unwanted commercial calls and if you keep receiving them the companies can be fined, for me it works "ok", there still companies that don't give a shit but at least the amount of calls I receive was reduced a lot...
- kube-system 7y ago
  The US did this before most countries, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry Most US spam calls originate outside of the US, though.
Elv13 7y ago
* Not directly related to SPIT (phone SPAM), but one is https://www.wired.com/story/sim-swap-fix-carriers-banks/ https://www.wired.com/story/sim-swap-fix-carriers-banks/ . * Carrier maintainer blacklists and other tools have also been used by providers for a long time. * My provider, Voip.ms, enforces a provenance whitelist by default. This block all SPIT calls coming from unspoofed caller ids. That may not sound like a lot, but yes, many of those calls are just random poeple picking their phone or mobile apps using the real phone number. Having regulation to track internal sources of SPIT (and enforcing it) helps too. * In Canada, you can subscribe to a non-telemarketing list. That doesn't help for scammer, but it helps for unsolicited ads, political spam and private surveys. This works when enforced with actual penalties for all parties involved.
- kube-system 7y ago
  Canada's non-telemarketing list that was implemented in 2004 is essentially a copy of the US legislation that was passed the year prior. It doesn't help though, as neither the US nor Canada have jurisdiction in India, et al.