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The retaliation part is where they got fired.
by throwaway2048 7y ago
The retaliation part is where they got fired.
- jaywalk 7y agoHe got fired for showing up to work when he was told to stay home.
- sudosysgen 7y agoSo what's your solution then, companies can just tell employees to stay home for no valid when they try to plan a strike or organize, and then fire them if they still try to do so?
- jaywalk 7y agoIt's unclear whether there was "no valid reason" or not in this case. But if they're paying the employee to stay home (like Amazon was in this case) it's hard for me to see a huge problem.
- sudosysgen 7y agoThe issue is that this prevents him from organizing strikes effectively. That is very problematic.
- root_axis 7y agoTo me, this seems like retaliation, but he offered Amazon plausible deniability by not complying with job instructions. If you're told to work from home but you refuse, it seems within reason that you might be let go.
- sudosysgen 7y agoI don't know that he can work from home, as a fulfillment center employee. It seems to me that Amazon was just trying to find a way to keep him away from other workers in order to collapse strike efforts. And I don't know that it's reasonable for a company to bar you from the office if you're trying to get the company unionized.
- CamperBob2 7y agoHow about not trying to organize a strike in the middle of a national emergency? Is that an option?
- throwaway2048 7y agoYou realize why he wanted to organize a strike right? Amazon knew that one of his co-workers was infected, and said and did nothing.
- CamperBob2 7y agoHosing everybody -- your company, your coworkers, your customers, yourself -- with a strike isn't the way to address that issue. We have these things called "courts" that are well-suited to addressing complaints like this one.
- throwaway2048 7y agoYou sound like you have it all figured out, perhaps you can point at which law amazon violated.
- CamperBob2 7y agoHonestly, it's not a good look for them if they tried to order him into quarantine 18 days after his exposure. I can't defend that based on what I've read from the Amazon supporters here. But a strike, right now, is not the answer. It's just pouring gasoline on the fire. Counterproductive at all levels. Labor organization is all about picking your battles, and this is the wrong fight in the wrong place at the wrong time. His beef with Amazon needs to be settled in a courtroom, not on a picket line. The only worse thing he could have done would be to try to lead a strike during a world war.
- throwaway2048 7y agoIts a shame they didn't seek your approval to make sure it was the appropriate time to strike, when the least amount of people would be upset, after all strikes are definitely not about inconveniencing people. Perhaps the workers should just continue to allow amazon to get away with exposing them to covid-19 with no notification, for the greater good.
- lonelappde 7y agoAnd if we was told to stay home because to prevent unionizing, that's retaliation. Intent matters in law.
- rumanator 7y ago> And if we was told to stay home because to prevent unionizing, But the worker was placed on a 15 day paid leave to self quarantine because he stated he had direct contact with someone infected with covid19. And then he not only broke his quarantine but also made it his point to go to work, potentially risking his colleagues. Even if you argue that he did't carried covid19, that action is not justifiable, neither safety-wise nor legaly-wise.
- throwaway2048 7y agoover and over in this thread you have been repeatedly told that amazon waited well over 2 weeks to "quarantine" him (and only him, nobody else that was exposed) despite knowing he was exposed (and also did not tell him). Yet in every post you make, you continue to misrepresent the situation. You are being hugely dishonest