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Zoom's got a tradition of being, let's put it like this, way too clever for everyone's own good. See previous “lets install a server on this Mac that is not re

Zoom's got a tradition of being, let's put it like this, way too clever for everyone's own good. See previous “lets install a server on this Mac that is not removed when you uninstall the app and leaves your camera open to the entire internet” for more examples. I use it on a VM, I suggest you do it too.

ummonk 7y ago
I use the web browser version, and refuse to even install Zoom. It's borderline spyware.
- junky228 7y ago
  sunova.... I couldn't find the web based version...That's what frustrated me about zoom compared to webex. I could use Weber in the browser and zoom had to be installed
  - lloeki 7y ago
    It's gated behind a fallback after three "failed" attempts at clicking on the link to open the app after opening a meeting URL, or a meeting setting. So, not on by default, seems to be unable to join audio unless you use Chrome, and shows a single video only.
    - 333c 7y ago
      This browser extension enables the web interface: https://github.com/arkadiyt/zoom-redirector https://github.com/arkadiyt/zoom-redirector
    - MarkyC4 7y ago
      I tried using the web client in Chrome today on my Mac, and the audio was playing to me at what felt like 50% speed; everyone sounded like slow motion to me.
saagarjha 7y ago
It's very Dropbox-esque…
- hr2016 7y ago
  As a Dropbox user, care to elaborate please?
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    https://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropbox-hacks-your-mac/ https://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropb..., and the associated Hacker News discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338
elevenoh 7y ago
Best zoom alternative?
- drusepth 7y ago
  I switched from Zoom to Google Duo almost a year ago and haven't had any issues.
- luto 7y ago
  Jitsi, Google Meet, bigbluebutton -- anything can runs in a browser tab and is more or less confined within it.
  - Aachen 7y ago
    Don't know bigbluebutton but at least among Jitsi and Google Meet, Wire is an alternative that is open source and end to end encrypted. They just don't make it easy to host your own, for that I guess Jitsi is the best way to go.
  - behnamoh 7y ago
    But how do they remain in business? I'm interested in knowing how say, Jitsi, earns money off of it.
    - oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
      Its wikipedia article describes its funding. It's basically a combination of sponsorships and paid employees working on it.
  - throwaway1777 7y ago
    Zoom works in the browser
  - adtac 7y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if Zoom suddenly started exploiting browser zero days to force install things "for your own good"

ummonk 7y ago

I use the web browser version, and refuse to even install Zoom. It's borderline spyware.

junky228 7y ago
sunova.... I couldn't find the web based version...That's what frustrated me about zoom compared to webex. I could use Weber in the browser and zoom had to be installed
- lloeki 7y ago
  It's gated behind a fallback after three "failed" attempts at clicking on the link to open the app after opening a meeting URL, or a meeting setting. So, not on by default, seems to be unable to join audio unless you use Chrome, and shows a single video only.
  - 333c 7y ago
    This browser extension enables the web interface: https://github.com/arkadiyt/zoom-redirector https://github.com/arkadiyt/zoom-redirector
  - MarkyC4 7y ago
    I tried using the web client in Chrome today on my Mac, and the audio was playing to me at what felt like 50% speed; everyone sounded like slow motion to me.

saagarjha 7y ago

It's very Dropbox-esque…

hr2016 7y ago
As a Dropbox user, care to elaborate please?
- saagarjha 7y ago
  https://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropbox-hacks-your-mac/ https://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropb..., and the associated Hacker News discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338

elevenoh 7y ago

Best zoom alternative?

drusepth 7y ago
I switched from Zoom to Google Duo almost a year ago and haven't had any issues.
luto 7y ago
Jitsi, Google Meet, bigbluebutton -- anything can runs in a browser tab and is more or less confined within it.
- Aachen 7y ago
  Don't know bigbluebutton but at least among Jitsi and Google Meet, Wire is an alternative that is open source and end to end encrypted. They just don't make it easy to host your own, for that I guess Jitsi is the best way to go.
- behnamoh 7y ago
  But how do they remain in business? I'm interested in knowing how say, Jitsi, earns money off of it.
  - oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
    Its wikipedia article describes its funding. It's basically a combination of sponsorships and paid employees working on it.
- throwaway1777 7y ago
  Zoom works in the browser
- adtac 7y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if Zoom suddenly started exploiting browser zero days to force install things "for your own good"