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It's great if you don't have to use the touch screen in the Tesla while it's driving, but it shouldn't even be possible to use it with the car in motion.

cameronh90 7y ago
I almost never drive by myself. Things that lock out my girlfriend from using them are very annoying to me. Android Auto does this on some features. It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway.
- braythwayt 7y ago
  It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway By that logic, doors needn't support locks, because people can just break windows anyways. Likewise, why put safety features in cars, people can just ride motorcycles? When you're making a thing, your job is to make that thing safe. The fact that people can use other, less-safe things does not in any way abrogate your responsibility for the safety of the thing you make.
- raisedbyninjas 7y ago
  If people routinely wore capacitive clothing, the screen could determine which seat the finger's owner was sitting in.
  - kowbell 7y ago
    I know this is comment in jest, but could you actually identify who touched a screen? Do people have different physical characteristics that would give them a detectable capacitive "fingerprint?"
- jsight 7y ago
  > It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway. I'm finding that more and more people are bringing a software mindset to cars. If it can be done wrong, we should add a technology fix to stop them! It hasn't always been this way to anywhere near this degree.
  - salawat 7y ago
    It's not a software mindset per se. It's a level of control freakery that was kept in check by the fact technology didn't integrate as effortlessly before digital systems became ubiquitous. One can be a software developer and resist the urge to control the user through dark patterns/software interlocks; unfortunately it seems there is a type of person drawn toward software development in the first place by the degree of empowerment and capacity to control it offers. I've always understood the impulse/satisfaction I've gotten out of writing it; but for me the end goal was writing the perfect tool to satisfy the end-user's workflow/experience. I've never been fond of using software as a means of mass coercion via "middle-users"; and when I see, or am asked to be part of it, it's generally a safe bet a philosophical rant/entreaty isn't far away. And besides which, screw Software interlocks. If it's important enough, dedicate hardware to it, lest you feel like ending up as the next THERAC-25/737-MAX.

cameronh90 7y ago

I almost never drive by myself. Things that lock out my girlfriend from using them are very annoying to me. Android Auto does this on some features. It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway.

braythwayt 7y ago
It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway By that logic, doors needn't support locks, because people can just break windows anyways. Likewise, why put safety features in cars, people can just ride motorcycles? When you're making a thing, your job is to make that thing safe. The fact that people can use other, less-safe things does not in any way abrogate your responsibility for the safety of the thing you make.
raisedbyninjas 7y ago
If people routinely wore capacitive clothing, the screen could determine which seat the finger's owner was sitting in.
- kowbell 7y ago
  I know this is comment in jest, but could you actually identify who touched a screen? Do people have different physical characteristics that would give them a detectable capacitive "fingerprint?"
jsight 7y ago
> It's not like it stops people from just using their phones anyway. I'm finding that more and more people are bringing a software mindset to cars. If it can be done wrong, we should add a technology fix to stop them! It hasn't always been this way to anywhere near this degree.
- salawat 7y ago
  It's not a software mindset per se. It's a level of control freakery that was kept in check by the fact technology didn't integrate as effortlessly before digital systems became ubiquitous. One can be a software developer and resist the urge to control the user through dark patterns/software interlocks; unfortunately it seems there is a type of person drawn toward software development in the first place by the degree of empowerment and capacity to control it offers. I've always understood the impulse/satisfaction I've gotten out of writing it; but for me the end goal was writing the perfect tool to satisfy the end-user's workflow/experience. I've never been fond of using software as a means of mass coercion via "middle-users"; and when I see, or am asked to be part of it, it's generally a safe bet a philosophical rant/entreaty isn't far away. And besides which, screw Software interlocks. If it's important enough, dedicate hardware to it, lest you feel like ending up as the next THERAC-25/737-MAX.