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I can't help but feel that people are bending over backwards now to deny the potential efficacy of this treatment because Trump tweeted about it. The potential

I can't help but feel that people are bending over backwards now to deny the potential efficacy of this treatment because Trump tweeted about it. The potentially positive results are some 2 months old now, there have been multiple (admittedly nonideal) reports out of China first, then Europe, that these drugs may work, and we have a theorized mechanism of action. These drugs were also reported to work on SARS. A tweet may not be an appropriate venue but it was absolutely a good idea to give people hope, and these drugs undeniably do show promise. Any other president would have been lauded.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
Other president wouldn't have tweeted. Would have the appropriate agency issue recommendations. Not be a glory-hog and blowhard. It's natural to doubt, when random things come out that channel everyday. In any case, this is a political act. Or a hail mary, one or the other. Not credible medical advice, not at this point.
- twomoretime 7y ago
  >Would have the appropriate agency issue recommendations. POTUS operates Twitter as a direct line to the people. This would be akin to an announcement at a press conference or a daily briefing. This particular tweet was neither glory-hogging or blowharding, and for some reason people are unable to treat it appropriately. >It's natural to doubt, when random things come out that channel everyday There's no excuse to doubt this when you have access to multiple journal articles going back to January. It was merely a mention of a promising treatment. You can verify the multiple studies yourself, instead of just blindly dismissing it because you don't like Trump. Imagine if we pass over a possible treatment because people can't stifle their bias against the president? >In any case, this is a political act. Or a hail mary, one or the other. Not credible medical advice, not at this point What? Every move by the POTUS is a political act. This isn't supposed to be "credible advice." The POTUS is letting the country know there's at least one promising treatment available, and that's not a lie. This hysteria is irrational. Pure emotional bias. You don't have to like the guy but a psychologically healthy person should be able to evaluate his statements individually - not literally ignore everything he says because you think he's racist or sexist or xenophobic or whatever.
  - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
    It's not akin to any of those things, as there's no give-and-take or question period. Its a travesty of honest communications. Why use tweets, do you suppose? So that pronouncements cannot be challenged? Certainly they do that. So there's no filter, no adviser in the way? The randomness of the messages confirm that. Doubt is normal when instead of a coordinated communication, its a random thought bursting out his phone with no filter. Go ahead and read journals. There's the sketchiest of support and lots of null results. Making this not credible. So then what is it? If solely an utterance to make it look like the big man is doing something, then that fits 'blowhard' precisely.
    - twomoretime 7y ago
      Your bias is keeping you from parsing my comments appropriately. One can single out individual positive actions without defending the overall presidency. I also feel that tweets are inapropriate, but what I'm arguing is that this particular tweet was not the misstep that it's being made out to be. I'm not trying to defend the president, I'm trying to explain that, as your comment demonstrates, people let their hatred of the president get in the way of rationally evaluating his actions and statements. Even Hitler was capable of positive deeds.
      - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
        I guess I'll have to echo your sentiment back at you. For some reason, the guy's supporters seem utterly blind to, what to the rest of us, is the obvious fact that he's a regular doofus who finagled his way into the highest office in the land. He's floundering around, not really trying, defensive and petulant most of the time. Totally unready for the rigors of the task, and not willing to learn. So if we give only the most cursory attention to his incoherent remarks, its obvious why. To some. To others, we're "not giving the guy a chance" or for some astonishing reason, we should "rationally evaluate his actions and statements". Like maybe this time, he's said something that by some accident can be construed as reasonable.
syshum 7y ago
The TDS is very strong in the world today...

JoeAltmaier 7y ago

Other president wouldn't have tweeted. Would have the appropriate agency issue recommendations. Not be a glory-hog and blowhard. It's natural to doubt, when random things come out that channel everyday. In any case, this is a political act. Or a hail mary, one or the other. Not credible medical advice, not at this point.

twomoretime 7y ago
>Would have the appropriate agency issue recommendations. POTUS operates Twitter as a direct line to the people. This would be akin to an announcement at a press conference or a daily briefing. This particular tweet was neither glory-hogging or blowharding, and for some reason people are unable to treat it appropriately. >It's natural to doubt, when random things come out that channel everyday There's no excuse to doubt this when you have access to multiple journal articles going back to January. It was merely a mention of a promising treatment. You can verify the multiple studies yourself, instead of just blindly dismissing it because you don't like Trump. Imagine if we pass over a possible treatment because people can't stifle their bias against the president? >In any case, this is a political act. Or a hail mary, one or the other. Not credible medical advice, not at this point What? Every move by the POTUS is a political act. This isn't supposed to be "credible advice." The POTUS is letting the country know there's at least one promising treatment available, and that's not a lie. This hysteria is irrational. Pure emotional bias. You don't have to like the guy but a psychologically healthy person should be able to evaluate his statements individually - not literally ignore everything he says because you think he's racist or sexist or xenophobic or whatever.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago
  It's not akin to any of those things, as there's no give-and-take or question period. Its a travesty of honest communications. Why use tweets, do you suppose? So that pronouncements cannot be challenged? Certainly they do that. So there's no filter, no adviser in the way? The randomness of the messages confirm that. Doubt is normal when instead of a coordinated communication, its a random thought bursting out his phone with no filter. Go ahead and read journals. There's the sketchiest of support and lots of null results. Making this not credible. So then what is it? If solely an utterance to make it look like the big man is doing something, then that fits 'blowhard' precisely.
  - twomoretime 7y ago
    Your bias is keeping you from parsing my comments appropriately. One can single out individual positive actions without defending the overall presidency. I also feel that tweets are inapropriate, but what I'm arguing is that this particular tweet was not the misstep that it's being made out to be. I'm not trying to defend the president, I'm trying to explain that, as your comment demonstrates, people let their hatred of the president get in the way of rationally evaluating his actions and statements. Even Hitler was capable of positive deeds.
    - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
      I guess I'll have to echo your sentiment back at you. For some reason, the guy's supporters seem utterly blind to, what to the rest of us, is the obvious fact that he's a regular doofus who finagled his way into the highest office in the land. He's floundering around, not really trying, defensive and petulant most of the time. Totally unready for the rigors of the task, and not willing to learn. So if we give only the most cursory attention to his incoherent remarks, its obvious why. To some. To others, we're "not giving the guy a chance" or for some astonishing reason, we should "rationally evaluate his actions and statements". Like maybe this time, he's said something that by some accident can be construed as reasonable.

syshum 7y ago

The TDS is very strong in the world today...