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Vulcan Salute (Handshake Alternative, U+1F596)
- a3_nm 7y agoSee also the riskier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbow_bump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbow_bump
- EE84M3i 7y agoWow, created in 2008!
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- nreece 7y agoIf it's suggested as a handshake alternative in the context of human-to-human infections, then probably a namaste[1] is an alternative salutation more widely understood by people around the world. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste
- dgellow 7y agoLooks like a Christian prayer gesture though!
- Hamuko 7y agoHow many Christians pray without interlacing their fingers?
- fyfy18 7y agoI was taught at a Christian school (in England) to pray like this.
- cheesysam 7y agoMe too. I remember being told by a rather stuffy teacher that if you pointed your fingers to the sky, that the prayer would shoot up to heaven! If you interlaced your fingers it would 'bleughhh not go anywhere!'
- Cthulhu_ 7y agoI was raised Protestant, and there I was taught that the folded hands were to keep you from fidgeting. I don't get the pointing at the heavens thing, I mean Jesus himself mentioned to basically be humble, not like those guys on the street corners making a bit show of praying.
- mhd 7y agoPeople who got slapped on their fingers by Nuns for doing that? (Because it's too lazy and you don't have your fingers raised to the Lord, or because that's "the Protestant" way etc.) I don't think there's a literal "canonical" position, but if you look at old art, the folded, non-interlaced position is definitely more common, with Dürer's depiction being already pretty late to the party. To add Abrahamic confusion to it all, I think there's also some Rabbinical argument against it (or was it qabbalistic?). Anyways, we're all wearing masks now anyway, so the appropriate gestures would be the Kuji-kiri.
- dgellow 7y agoIt's maybe an European thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praying_Hands_(D%C3%BCrer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praying_Hands_(D%C3%BCrer)
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- nsomaru 7y agoPerhaps you’ve got that the wrong way around
- dgellow 7y agoWhat do you mean? I'm just saying that this gesture has a different meaning in a different cultural group, I don't know what would be the other way to get that.
- downshun 7y agoI think this post dropped from view from HN once the religion discussion started. Oh well.
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- minikomi 7y agoAlso the [1][2] "Shaka sign" which is pretty well understood and casual. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka_sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka_sign [2] https://emojipedia.org/call-me-hand/ https://emojipedia.org/call-me-hand/
- D13Fd 7y agoIt has religious connotations in its original meaning, according to Wikipedia. It also resembles the "please, I'm begging you" gesture in the US or a general prayer gesture.
- dgellow 7y agoWave gesture, already quite common handshake alternative (or offensive gesture depending the country!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_(gesture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_(gesture)
- downshun 7y ago> ... may be interpreted differently or even be highly offensive in South Korea, Europe, Nigeria, Greece, Bulgaria, Latin American countries, India, Japan, and other places. IMO it is too impersonal (even rude as a forceful "attention here") and even meaningless (where Vulcan has more desirable connotations: space exploration, rationality, prosperity, unity). Though I'm not sure how widespread the cocept is.
- smaili 7y agoSomewhat on topic but somewhat tangential, has anyone watched the new Picard series? Would love to get some opinions, especially as it compares to other Star Treks!
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoI really like how the Zhat Vash borrowed a lot from Dune’s Bene Gesserit, felt like a nice salute to Frank Herbert.
- oaiey 7y agoHave not thought about it like that but very true!
- jv22222 7y agoPersonally I really like it. It's hard to define though. Somewhat like an on the road travel story with a rag tag team of misfits who join together. I guess a _tiny_ bit like Guardians of the Galaxy rag tag team, on the backdrop of a StarTrek setting lead by a Shakespearean actor with many TNG faves cropping up during the adventure. Hmm, well, anyways it's worth checking out IMHO ;)
- auggierose 7y agoI like it a lot. It's different, yet familiar.
- Causality1 7y agoThere's a lot less Picard and a lot more young hot peoples' interpersonal drama than I'd like. It also commits STD's cardinal sin of throwing away the basic concept of Star Trek, that being that society as a whole can become better than we are now, that the human condition can be meaningfully improved. However, the action and characters are good. You just have to tell yourself that it's an alternate timeline where instead of making humans better, first contact turned them all into assholes.
- laumars 7y ago
- matsemann 7y agoThis made me think: Given that most of society uses technology, but it's the "nerds" that define much of how it works, how does that affect culture? Some things that may be niche, becomes part of the mainstream as it's the niche group deciding.
- djaychela 7y agoI don't live with my girlfriend (she lives 30 miles away, I have my own house with my elderly mum who I look after and she didn't want to be on her own for weeks, and my girlfriend's house is overcrowded as the two older kids are back from Uni, and it's a small 3-bed house so space is at a premium, and there were doubts over if some of the kids had been exposed to Coronavirus), and the last time I saw her was a few weeks ago, after picking up my step-daughter from University and getting her back home. When I left (we'd still been social distancing even on that day), I did this Vulcan Salute as it reminded me of the end of Wrath of Khan - I was feeling pretty sad as I know I can't be with her for at least a month here in the UK. I'd hoped she would do the same, as it just felt like that moment. She had NO IDEA what I was referring to, so needless to say it was a bit of a downer at an emotional time! (Don't get me wrong, I'm not an emotional imbecile, I just picked a bad way to express my feelings at that moment!)
- shawnlower2 7y agoA downer with a silver lining, though. xkcd.com/1053 - Netflix party mode, you get to rewatch all the ToS films.