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Where are you going to find a specialized consultant expert enough to judge if its fake who also doesn't know that the painting he is looking at was recently st

Where are you going to find a specialized consultant expert enough to judge if its fake who also doesn't know that the painting he is looking at was recently stolen from a museum?

csomar 7y ago
These are oil paintings. I don't have much expertise in that but I think it'll be impossible to counterfeit the smallest details.
- sgc 7y ago
  With High res imaging of much major art a la google art project now, it's going to be literally impossible for many of them.
- asdff 7y ago
  Can't fake the inorganic chemist that the museum hires to date paint compositions.
jbc1 7y ago
Why do they need to not know that it was recently stolen from a museum?
Zenbit_UX 7y ago
Their ignorance is not required, they certainly should be aware it was stolen if they're any good at their job. All you need is someone who's willing to accept cash.
elorant 7y ago
I don't think it's that hard to buy discretion if you're willing to pay a hefty fee. Besides how could anyone prove that you actually own the painting? I hire you, I fly you half the way around the world to a remote place where you're to examine the painting for a couple of weeks, you're paid and bye-bye. I'm not saying that I know for a fact that this is how it's happening, but it doesn't seem far-fetched. What I do know is that a lot of what's happening in the art world is shrouded by a veil of secrecy.
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Unusually tricky right now. Plus the number of people who can validate authenticity is quite limited and easily identifiable. A Van Gogh would be hard to forge but not that hard. There's recipes for paint/pigment manufacture going back centuries.
- comex 7y ago
  The consultant doesn't need to prove it. The prosecutor does, if it gets to that point – but first there would be a police investigation, and the police have a variety of investigative techniques at their disposal.
manigandham 7y ago
Are you implying that if they do recognize the original, they would report it as stolen? It's an interesting question, and there are rewards for recovery so it's probably under the same trust calculus of any other criminal venture: pay enough that they don't.

Where are you going to find a specialized consultant expert enough to judge if its fake who also doesn't know that the painting he is looking at was recently stolen from a museum?

csomar 7y ago

These are oil paintings. I don't have much expertise in that but I think it'll be impossible to counterfeit the smallest details.

sgc 7y ago
With High res imaging of much major art a la google art project now, it's going to be literally impossible for many of them.
asdff 7y ago
Can't fake the inorganic chemist that the museum hires to date paint compositions.

jbc1 7y ago

Why do they need to not know that it was recently stolen from a museum?

Zenbit_UX 7y ago

Their ignorance is not required, they certainly should be aware it was stolen if they're any good at their job. All you need is someone who's willing to accept cash.

elorant 7y ago

I don't think it's that hard to buy discretion if you're willing to pay a hefty fee. Besides how could anyone prove that you actually own the painting? I hire you, I fly you half the way around the world to a remote place where you're to examine the painting for a couple of weeks, you're paid and bye-bye. I'm not saying that I know for a fact that this is how it's happening, but it doesn't seem far-fetched. What I do know is that a lot of what's happening in the art world is shrouded by a veil of secrecy.

anigbrowl 7y ago
Unusually tricky right now. Plus the number of people who can validate authenticity is quite limited and easily identifiable. A Van Gogh would be hard to forge but not that hard. There's recipes for paint/pigment manufacture going back centuries.
comex 7y ago
The consultant doesn't need to prove it. The prosecutor does, if it gets to that point – but first there would be a police investigation, and the police have a variety of investigative techniques at their disposal.

manigandham 7y ago

Are you implying that if they do recognize the original, they would report it as stolen? It's an interesting question, and there are rewards for recovery so it's probably under the same trust calculus of any other criminal venture: pay enough that they don't.