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Ah yes, the "totally misleading title crowd," a well known group of people that everyone can easily identify. > In a lot of businesses this really is not an is

Ah yes, the "totally misleading title crowd," a well known group of people that everyone can easily identify. > In a lot of businesses this really is not an issue. I don't think anyone cares about the business in this situation. Individual privacy and freedoms are more important than shareholder value and micromanager snooping. When you force everyone to engage with their coworkers online, you need to find a way to preserve basic human rights -- like two individuals having a private conversation. Tech that obfuscates that, or exposes the contents of private conversations, should be called out for doing so. Yes, we want business discussions to be open. But at the same time you have to remember that it's humans that conduct the business (as little as VCs may like that, because they're so hard to control and pacify), and that those humans have human needs and emotions, and will have private conversations wherever conversations can be had.

thoraway1010 7y ago
The use case zoom is targeting is not encrypted private conversations that focuses on user privacy. It is conferencing -> generally public / group meetings. The permissions are VERY loose by default - anyone can join your personal meeting room if you don't put a password based on a simple set of digits after a URL. People can join with NO account, no login. My own experience trying to do a lot more lockdown - people don't like it, they WANT this free and open approach. If you want private conversations - lots of apps out there support that. But many apps targeting business have a corporate / compliance / discovery API option. For example, slack is very popular, and admins can get corporate export turned on or discovery API which allows exports of your PRIVATE direct messaging conversations by the company. So if you think zoom letting a user see their OWN messages is bad, slack (often a popular programmer system) let's admins get everything you ever typed. The one I hate the most are the SSL middleware boxes and decrypt everything.

thoraway1010 7y ago

The use case zoom is targeting is not encrypted private conversations that focuses on user privacy. It is conferencing -> generally public / group meetings. The permissions are VERY loose by default - anyone can join your personal meeting room if you don't put a password based on a simple set of digits after a URL. People can join with NO account, no login. My own experience trying to do a lot more lockdown - people don't like it, they WANT this free and open approach. If you want private conversations - lots of apps out there support that. But many apps targeting business have a corporate / compliance / discovery API option. For example, slack is very popular, and admins can get corporate export turned on or discovery API which allows exports of your PRIVATE direct messaging conversations by the company. So if you think zoom letting a user see their OWN messages is bad, slack (often a popular programmer system) let's admins get everything you ever typed. The one I hate the most are the SSL middleware boxes and decrypt everything.