4 ms·

There needs to be a corporate framework for this type of gig economy. Some structure that allows companies to pay into general benefits on a as-earned basis, wi

There needs to be a corporate framework for this type of gig economy. Some structure that allows companies to pay into general benefits on a as-earned basis, without forcing the definition to be a classic "employee" which no-one (except unions) wants. Ideally it should be across corporations. I know a ton of people who drive for both Uber and Lyft, depending on who pays better. Thats a critical element - there needs to be a market of companies for people to work for, but they still need solid benefits and protections. Think of this as a next generation union type structure.

adamsea 7y ago
Yes. And / or a law : ).
drstewart 7y ago
>Some structure that allows companies to pay into general benefits on a as-earned basis, without forcing the definition to be a classic "employee" which no-one (except unions) wants. I don't know why this doesn't come up more. People get hung up on whether contractor or FTE fits gig workers better, without ever suggesting there's a categorization issue here that could best be solved with a new category.
inscionent 7y ago
That's just socialism with more steps...
- adultSwim 7y ago
  Socialism isn't the government doing things. Socialism is worker control of the economy, ie much more democracy.
  - InTheArena 7y ago
    Socialism tends to be implemented the government doing things ineffectively, which is part of the reason Socialism has the reputation that it doesn't want.
ohples 7y ago
From my understanding, this structure already exists in some form, where a hiring hall is used. Essentially, workers are employees of the the union, and are contracted out to companies as needed. The union typically handles qualifications, and benefits.
lonelappde 7y ago
You just invented the "temp agency" and the "contracting company". Why do you believe no taxi drivers want to be employees? Why is it different from pizza deliverers or restaurant servers as regards wanting to be an independent contractor?

adamsea 7y ago

Yes. And / or a law : ).

drstewart 7y ago

>Some structure that allows companies to pay into general benefits on a as-earned basis, without forcing the definition to be a classic "employee" which no-one (except unions) wants. I don't know why this doesn't come up more. People get hung up on whether contractor or FTE fits gig workers better, without ever suggesting there's a categorization issue here that could best be solved with a new category.

inscionent 7y ago

That's just socialism with more steps...

adultSwim 7y ago
Socialism isn't the government doing things. Socialism is worker control of the economy, ie much more democracy.
- InTheArena 7y ago
  Socialism tends to be implemented the government doing things ineffectively, which is part of the reason Socialism has the reputation that it doesn't want.

ohples 7y ago

From my understanding, this structure already exists in some form, where a hiring hall is used. Essentially, workers are employees of the the union, and are contracted out to companies as needed. The union typically handles qualifications, and benefits.

lonelappde 7y ago

You just invented the "temp agency" and the "contracting company". Why do you believe no taxi drivers want to be employees? Why is it different from pizza deliverers or restaurant servers as regards wanting to be an independent contractor?