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Okay, so this link loads up to a blank page. You have to edit the CSS and remove the "opacity: 0" to see the content. Presumably there's some Javascript in ther

Okay, so this link loads up to a blank page. You have to edit the CSS and remove the "opacity: 0" to see the content. Presumably there's some Javascript in there that does this after the page has loaded. So, talking about a hill to die on - can we please stop doing this? There was absolutely nothing else in that web page that required Javascript to be able to view the content. It was completely unnecessary to pull a trick like that.

mk89 7y ago
Confirmed. You'll have to temporarily allow javascript for that. What for? Just some text. Come on, people.
KarlKemp 7y ago
But I run a custom patched browser and turn HTML off for most sites, unless it is inserted by JavaScript. Can we please all cater to the quirks of my specific setup? I don’t trust HTML, because it is used by a lot of advertisements, and there were lots of security holes in HTML parsers in the 1990s.
- sidpatil 7y ago
  Oh, come on. A sizable amount of undesirable functionality is implemented using JavaScript—ads, tracking, cryptominers, etc. It doesn't seem unreasonable to have some expectations about where JavaScript should and shouldn't be used. Imagine if the majority of PDF authors started following the same logic. Would you really want to run arbitrary code just to read a journal article or ebook?
  - sidpatil 7y ago
    As if on cue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22742476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22742476
chrisseaton 7y ago
Maybe the unnecessary thing was you disabling JavaScript?
saxonww 7y ago
I'm using uMatrix, and I had to allow scripts from static1.squarespace.com to get the text to load, and assets.squarespace.com to load the pictures. I'd prefer it if sites were written to be loadable and readable with only first-party scripts, but in my experience with uMatrix most services/tools offering aided site construction (blogger, wordpress, squarespace, wix, etc.) have required external scripts like this. Another option if you're using Firefox is reader mode, which loads the content without images or other decoration. I forgot to try this first myself.

mk89 7y ago

Confirmed. You'll have to temporarily allow javascript for that. What for? Just some text. Come on, people.

KarlKemp 7y ago

But I run a custom patched browser and turn HTML off for most sites, unless it is inserted by JavaScript. Can we please all cater to the quirks of my specific setup? I don’t trust HTML, because it is used by a lot of advertisements, and there were lots of security holes in HTML parsers in the 1990s.

sidpatil 7y ago
Oh, come on. A sizable amount of undesirable functionality is implemented using JavaScript—ads, tracking, cryptominers, etc. It doesn't seem unreasonable to have some expectations about where JavaScript should and shouldn't be used. Imagine if the majority of PDF authors started following the same logic. Would you really want to run arbitrary code just to read a journal article or ebook?
- sidpatil 7y ago
  As if on cue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22742476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22742476

chrisseaton 7y ago

Maybe the unnecessary thing was you disabling JavaScript?

saxonww 7y ago

I'm using uMatrix, and I had to allow scripts from static1.squarespace.com to get the text to load, and assets.squarespace.com to load the pictures. I'd prefer it if sites were written to be loadable and readable with only first-party scripts, but in my experience with uMatrix most services/tools offering aided site construction (blogger, wordpress, squarespace, wix, etc.) have required external scripts like this. Another option if you're using Firefox is reader mode, which loads the content without images or other decoration. I forgot to try this first myself.