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The poor little dolphins! Ha ha just kidding, I've had dolphin it's very very good, but I feel it's immoral and a little like cannibalism since they are probab

The poor little dolphins! Ha ha just kidding, I've had dolphin it's very very good, but I feel it's immoral and a little like cannibalism since they are probably smarter than us.

chrisco255 7y ago
Are you sure you didn't have dolphin fish AKA mahi mahi?
- clort 7y ago
  AKA Dorado but I have seen a smallish dolphin or porpoise for sale in a roadside market in the caribbean, about 20 years ago so its not unknown for people to eat them. (I forget exactly where it was but perhaps Bequia - I don't know if Bequia still does it now but they were subject to aboriginal rights of whaling)
gridlockd 7y ago
Dolphins are awful creatures, it is perfectly acceptable for them to be killing and raping their own and other species, just for fun. They're the humans of the sea, some might say. Why should it be immoral to eat them, just because they're smart or smarter than us? If they're that smart, they should figure out how to not get caught. It's immoral to fool the far less intelligent farm animals into getting slaughtered.
- DonHopkins 7y ago
  Same goes for people! If God didn't want us to eat people, we wouldn't be made out of meat. But remember: it's only moral (and more nutritious) if you eat the rich ones, first. What was the title of that SF story where the aliens harvested stupid fat humans to eat by making fake casinos and cruise liners advertising all-you-can-eat buffets?
  - gridlockd 7y ago
    Cannibalism in humans is unhealthy. A species that is engaged in eating itself as a staple food has poor chances or survival anyway. > What was the title of that SF story where the aliens harvested stupid fat humans to eat by making fake casinos and cruise liners advertising all-you-can-eat buffets? I don't have any moral objections to that scenario.
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Cannibalism in humans is not as unhealthy as not eating the rich. Nothing universal heath care can't mitigate.
      - Libeste 7y ago
        You just ate the CEO of the company doing prion research.
        DonHopkins 7y ago
        If you eat Martin Shkreli's brain, maybe you'll inherit his skill with spreadsheets! Worth a try. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12450070 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12450070 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_riscmviI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_riscmviI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyf3Cnb-MQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyf3Cnb-MQ
contingencies 7y ago
Pigs are supposed to be as smart as chimps, making them in essentially the smartest animals out there except for dolphins and humans. However, we as humans design, build and run industrial systems that breed, feed and torture hundreds of thousands of them constantly, so we can eat them.
- slothtrop 7y ago
  They're intelligent, but I've never heard that suggestion. It's not as though they use tools. Years ago I thought the reason we didn't kill certain animals is they're cuter than others. Maybe, but there's a perceived scale of demonstrated consciousness. If an animal appears more intelligent and compassionate (e.g. chimps), we're more put off on slaying them.
  - fanatic2pope 7y ago
    Tool use in animals is fairly common. Generally we haven't seen it in the past because we simply weren't looking. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1616504719300333 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S16165...
  - Libeste 7y ago
    The cost/benefit of simple tools favors chimps more than pigs.
- droithomme 7y ago
  Some pigs are pretty smart. Not sure if smart as dogs. Pig parts have been transplanted into humans for medical reasons with good results. So we are kind of similar. I don't eat pig for these reasons. I don't have a problem with others eating it though. There's no shortage of pigs and they are domesticated so it's easy to make more. When I ate dolphin I didn't know it was dolphin. It was so good. Then I found out it was dolphin. I think no one should eat dolphin because if they do soon dolphins will be extinct because they are that yummy. Dolphins don't do well in captivity and haven't been domesticated. So we can't just ramp up the number of dolphins. Eating them is a real risk to their survival as a species.

The poor little dolphins! Ha ha just kidding, I've had dolphin it's very very good, but I feel it's immoral and a little like cannibalism since they are probably smarter than us.

chrisco255 7y ago

Are you sure you didn't have dolphin fish AKA mahi mahi?

clort 7y ago
AKA Dorado but I have seen a smallish dolphin or porpoise for sale in a roadside market in the caribbean, about 20 years ago so its not unknown for people to eat them. (I forget exactly where it was but perhaps Bequia - I don't know if Bequia still does it now but they were subject to aboriginal rights of whaling)

gridlockd 7y ago

Dolphins are awful creatures, it is perfectly acceptable for them to be killing and raping their own and other species, just for fun. They're the humans of the sea, some might say. Why should it be immoral to eat them, just because they're smart or smarter than us? If they're that smart, they should figure out how to not get caught. It's immoral to fool the far less intelligent farm animals into getting slaughtered.

DonHopkins 7y ago
Same goes for people! If God didn't want us to eat people, we wouldn't be made out of meat. But remember: it's only moral (and more nutritious) if you eat the rich ones, first. What was the title of that SF story where the aliens harvested stupid fat humans to eat by making fake casinos and cruise liners advertising all-you-can-eat buffets?
- gridlockd 7y ago
  Cannibalism in humans is unhealthy. A species that is engaged in eating itself as a staple food has poor chances or survival anyway. > What was the title of that SF story where the aliens harvested stupid fat humans to eat by making fake casinos and cruise liners advertising all-you-can-eat buffets? I don't have any moral objections to that scenario.
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Cannibalism in humans is not as unhealthy as not eating the rich. Nothing universal heath care can't mitigate.
    - Libeste 7y ago
      You just ate the CEO of the company doing prion research.
      - DonHopkins 7y ago
        If you eat Martin Shkreli's brain, maybe you'll inherit his skill with spreadsheets! Worth a try. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12450070 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12450070 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_riscmviI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_riscmviI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyf3Cnb-MQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyf3Cnb-MQ

contingencies 7y ago

Pigs are supposed to be as smart as chimps, making them in essentially the smartest animals out there except for dolphins and humans. However, we as humans design, build and run industrial systems that breed, feed and torture hundreds of thousands of them constantly, so we can eat them.

slothtrop 7y ago
They're intelligent, but I've never heard that suggestion. It's not as though they use tools. Years ago I thought the reason we didn't kill certain animals is they're cuter than others. Maybe, but there's a perceived scale of demonstrated consciousness. If an animal appears more intelligent and compassionate (e.g. chimps), we're more put off on slaying them.
- fanatic2pope 7y ago
  Tool use in animals is fairly common. Generally we haven't seen it in the past because we simply weren't looking. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1616504719300333 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S16165...
- Libeste 7y ago
  The cost/benefit of simple tools favors chimps more than pigs.
droithomme 7y ago
Some pigs are pretty smart. Not sure if smart as dogs. Pig parts have been transplanted into humans for medical reasons with good results. So we are kind of similar. I don't eat pig for these reasons. I don't have a problem with others eating it though. There's no shortage of pigs and they are domesticated so it's easy to make more. When I ate dolphin I didn't know it was dolphin. It was so good. Then I found out it was dolphin. I think no one should eat dolphin because if they do soon dolphins will be extinct because they are that yummy. Dolphins don't do well in captivity and haven't been domesticated. So we can't just ramp up the number of dolphins. Eating them is a real risk to their survival as a species.