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How much mentoring do you think goes on at your average school? My assumption is the motivated students seek it out, but the 5x/week kegger types probably get v

How much mentoring do you think goes on at your average school? My assumption is the motivated students seek it out, but the 5x/week kegger types probably get very little.

Retric 7y ago
My experience is it’s struggling students who seek out mentoring. That may be because their holding down a job while in school, have kids, or dug them selves a hole by spending to much time playing video games / at parties etc. Around 70% of students who graduate high school are going to collage. That’s a huge swath of people who are dealing with a huge range of issues.
- mrosett 7y ago
  > That may be because their holding down a job while in school, have kids, or dug them selves a hole by spending to much time playing video games / at parties etc. Interesting. I saw the opposite; people who are struggling don't always have the time, energy, or skills to build relationships with potential mentors.
chongli 7y ago
The people who are struggling and don't seek help, preferring to go to the kegger, are the ones who drop out. Sure, there are probably some who do really well and still find time to party, but they are a brilliant minority. University is a filtering mechanism as much anything. Our culture no longer has any formalized rite of passage the way indigenous cultures have. Getting through university, especially in tough programs such as math, hard sciences, or engineering, is the only rite of passage we have left. Even the days when someone could graduate high school and immediately get a factory job that pays well enough to support a family are gone.
- goatinaboat 7y ago
  Getting through university, especially in tough programs such as math, hard sciences, or engineering, is the only rite of passage we have left. Not really true. Anyone who wants a more traditional “rite of passage” to adulthood can join the military at 18 and go to boot camp.
  - txtsd 7y ago
    Please. Signing up to be your government's lapdog is not a "rite of passage".
    - goatinaboat 7y ago
      Neither is wearing a funny hat and picking up a certificate, but the physicality of boot camp is a lot closer to the traditional meaning of the phrase.
    - bwb 7y ago
      I was stunned to hear that. Service in whatever form is def a rite of passage. Signing over your life to something bigger than you is def a rite of passage. Especially when there is a chance you might lose your life as a result. Government is us, it does great good and some bad, but ultimately it is civilization. If you want to change it go vote and get involved, but don't complain about the people trying to make the world better in their own way.
    - linksnapzz 7y ago
      How silly would that be. Clearly, adulthood is marked by agreeing to become a financial milch-cow fattened on government loans, and milked by rapacious administrators in the service of insouicant and unaccountable "education" institutions. The most respectable of which are still Nozikian utility monsters devouring everything in their path. Yeah, doing 4 in the Army is so inferior to that.
  - pyuser583 7y ago
    Not with my health conditions. If you look at the average freshman class, well over 50% have some medical condition. Sorry if that’s nitpicky, but a really large number of young people just don’t qualify. Also, the military isn’t really in the right of passage business anymore.
quickthrower2 7y ago
What’s a 5x legger?
pyuser583 7y ago
It varies a lot from college to college. And even within colleges. In person colleges have stronger social bonds - for better or worse. For example, some colleges are reinventing fraternities and sororities to encourage people to develop healthy habits. Of course some frats are carrying on as they were.

How much mentoring do you think goes on at your average school? My assumption is the motivated students seek it out, but the 5x/week kegger types probably get very little.

Retric 7y ago

My experience is it’s struggling students who seek out mentoring. That may be because their holding down a job while in school, have kids, or dug them selves a hole by spending to much time playing video games / at parties etc. Around 70% of students who graduate high school are going to collage. That’s a huge swath of people who are dealing with a huge range of issues.

mrosett 7y ago
> That may be because their holding down a job while in school, have kids, or dug them selves a hole by spending to much time playing video games / at parties etc. Interesting. I saw the opposite; people who are struggling don't always have the time, energy, or skills to build relationships with potential mentors.

chongli 7y ago

The people who are struggling and don't seek help, preferring to go to the kegger, are the ones who drop out. Sure, there are probably some who do really well and still find time to party, but they are a brilliant minority. University is a filtering mechanism as much anything. Our culture no longer has any formalized rite of passage the way indigenous cultures have. Getting through university, especially in tough programs such as math, hard sciences, or engineering, is the only rite of passage we have left. Even the days when someone could graduate high school and immediately get a factory job that pays well enough to support a family are gone.

goatinaboat 7y ago
Getting through university, especially in tough programs such as math, hard sciences, or engineering, is the only rite of passage we have left. Not really true. Anyone who wants a more traditional “rite of passage” to adulthood can join the military at 18 and go to boot camp.
- txtsd 7y ago
  Please. Signing up to be your government's lapdog is not a "rite of passage".
  - goatinaboat 7y ago
    Neither is wearing a funny hat and picking up a certificate, but the physicality of boot camp is a lot closer to the traditional meaning of the phrase.
  - bwb 7y ago
    I was stunned to hear that. Service in whatever form is def a rite of passage. Signing over your life to something bigger than you is def a rite of passage. Especially when there is a chance you might lose your life as a result. Government is us, it does great good and some bad, but ultimately it is civilization. If you want to change it go vote and get involved, but don't complain about the people trying to make the world better in their own way.
  - linksnapzz 7y ago
    How silly would that be. Clearly, adulthood is marked by agreeing to become a financial milch-cow fattened on government loans, and milked by rapacious administrators in the service of insouicant and unaccountable "education" institutions. The most respectable of which are still Nozikian utility monsters devouring everything in their path. Yeah, doing 4 in the Army is so inferior to that.
- pyuser583 7y ago
  Not with my health conditions. If you look at the average freshman class, well over 50% have some medical condition. Sorry if that’s nitpicky, but a really large number of young people just don’t qualify. Also, the military isn’t really in the right of passage business anymore.

quickthrower2 7y ago

What’s a 5x legger?

pyuser583 7y ago

It varies a lot from college to college. And even within colleges. In person colleges have stronger social bonds - for better or worse. For example, some colleges are reinventing fraternities and sororities to encourage people to develop healthy habits. Of course some frats are carrying on as they were.