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Doctors don't want someone with zero training "helping". That's for sure. The original idea of 30 days training is an end of the world worst case scenario. No o
by bilbo0s 7y ago
Doctors don't want someone with zero training "helping". That's for sure. The original idea of 30 days training is an end of the world worst case scenario. No one wants that right now. And someone with 30 days training is more of a hinderance than a help. Press more techs, nurses and PAs into service first.
But my SO runs, (COO), a system of hospitals. Including some teaching hospitals. And part of their plan definitely includes sequestering final year med students and all residents at their respective homes. Apparently the idea is that as hospital staff go down, this pool of residents and med students can be drawn on.
I know she stays up nights worried sick that residents might go to a party, or invite their boyfriend over, or engage in some other risky behavior instead of stay home alone and safeguard their health. So I get the idea that they really don't have a backup to that plan. I suspect med students and residents are a pretty critical part of the plan for surge operations across the nation.
Just pointing that out because I think hospital administrators and medical directors are starting to plan on doing things they wouldn't normally do. Like pressing 4th year med students into service, or taking 68 year old women off of ventilators if a 33 year old woman presents with a need for it. It's not so much a question of what doctors want to do, as it is a question of doing what has to be done to get through this with the maximum number of recoveries.
- zaroth 7y agoCurious what your SO thinks of this... If a health care worker has a positive test and no or mild symptoms, seems to me they could sleep alongside COVID patients and continue to treat just fine? Save a lot on PPE while you’re at it. A lot of workers would prefer that, rather then being quarantined at home where they will infect their families.
- bilbo0s 7y agoThere's talk along those lines. Not sure what they've settled on? Keep in mind, they don't really know how crowded these facilities are gonna get. Space may be at a premium. But yeah, at the same time going home is not always the best idea.
- ThrowawayR2 7y agoPatients are continuing to emit more viruses as they breathe and cough. Put enough viral load into the health care worker and they'll be in just as bad shape as the patient regardless of how naturally resistant they are.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoReminds me of some of the horror stories from the peak of the outbreak in Wuhan. Doctors and nurses treating patients without any PPE because, well, there wasn’t any left, and they had all tested positive anyway. I don’t know what the fatality rates were for those healthcare workers at those facilities, but it would be good to know for future reference.
- mistermann 7y ago> The original idea of 30 days training is an end of the world worst case scenario. The person was asking a question, not proposing a plan of only training people for thirty days. This thread is a like a giant version of that telephone game that we used to play in school, except in that game you didn't have the advantage of reading the exact words that the person said, as we can in this thread.
- romanows 7y agoThanks for your comments in this thread. Some people seem to have an axe to grind concerning the hubris of software hackers and are pushing that debate rather than addressing the question.
- mistermann 7y agoAmong other things! I dunno what it is, the internet + Donald Trump that does this to people? Too much fighting, even among people who are mostly ideologically aligned.
- mistermann 7y agoHmmm, it seems like the idea that we have too much fighting is not very popular. Maybe I have it completely backwards, maybe we need more fighting.
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