> Also, an artist's constraints are often self-prescribed, and they can easily change them if they like. the most amazing art (both graphics and music) i have

> Also, an artist's constraints are often self-prescribed, and they can easily change them if they like. the most amazing art (both graphics and music) i have seen on computer were from atari, amiga, & c64 demosceners. these artists had real software and hardware contraints. i like what you said about it being a spectrum though. i think it's hard to tell when engineering becomes art and art becomes engineering. but one can easily spot pure (for its own sake) engineering or pure art.