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This would've been a good idea before Chinese New Year for those coming from China but the Japanese government, in its infinite wisdom, didn't want to miss out

This would've been a good idea before Chinese New Year for those coming from China but the Japanese government, in its infinite wisdom, didn't want to miss out on the money all those tourists bring. At least they've done well suppressing the true number of cases until the Olympics was cancelled. Even if it should've been bloody obvious they have been lying, most of the rest of the world - as per usual - decided that the Japanese government is trustworthy because Japan football fans take their rubbish home, or anime, or some other nebulous reason.

Jommi 7y ago
Any sources/links indicating that the numbers are VASTLY different than communicated on the news?
- brigandish 7y ago
  The numbers would surely come out in a study later in the year, if not next year, as they do for other kinds of cover up here[1][2] or simply because it's hard to find out as it's happening in such a short time over such a large area during a pandemic. Personally, I'm basing it on: - The propensity for cover ups to happen (even on a small scale, it's part of the culture of maintaing wa) - The strange lack of testing while the Olympics was still a possibility - The ease with which deaths could be covered up given the system here and things like the already mentioned kodokushi deaths - The many anecdotes of people being turned away for tests[3] - The knowledge that Japan and the Japanese are not special, so their position as an outlier must have some reason beyond "they wear masks" (how did wearing masks help in China?) while there are barely any measures to prevent transmission in place - I like Ockham's Razor [1] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/06/kodokushi-in-aging-japan-thousands-die-alone-and-unnoticed-every-year-their-bodies-often-go-unnoticed-for-weeks.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/06/kodokushi-in-agi... [2] https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-legal/osaka-police-failed-to-report-81000-crimes-between-2008-and-2012-probe/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusJapan/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusJapan/

Jommi 7y ago

Any sources/links indicating that the numbers are VASTLY different than communicated on the news?

brigandish 7y ago
The numbers would surely come out in a study later in the year, if not next year, as they do for other kinds of cover up here[1][2] or simply because it's hard to find out as it's happening in such a short time over such a large area during a pandemic. Personally, I'm basing it on: - The propensity for cover ups to happen (even on a small scale, it's part of the culture of maintaing wa) - The strange lack of testing while the Olympics was still a possibility - The ease with which deaths could be covered up given the system here and things like the already mentioned kodokushi deaths - The many anecdotes of people being turned away for tests[3] - The knowledge that Japan and the Japanese are not special, so their position as an outlier must have some reason beyond "they wear masks" (how did wearing masks help in China?) while there are barely any measures to prevent transmission in place - I like Ockham's Razor [1] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/06/kodokushi-in-aging-japan-thousands-die-alone-and-unnoticed-every-year-their-bodies-often-go-unnoticed-for-weeks.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/06/kodokushi-in-agi... [2] https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-legal/osaka-police-failed-to-report-81000-crimes-between-2008-and-2012-probe/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusJapan/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusJapan/