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I've done physical work and it's fun at first, and I do like the physicality of it, but it gets boring fast and that I object to. After getting boring it gets s

I've done physical work and it's fun at first, and I do like the physicality of it, but it gets boring fast and that I object to. After getting boring it gets soul destroyingly dull. I mean, working eg. in a warehouse can make people hollow. OK, some do like it, but many I knew didn't. Most tolerated it because they had no choice. It's a very good thing for a period, as a part of growing up, but as a career, or for long periods. It's not good. There will be plenty in the fields who would have had a career as a scientist, technician, engineer, who the world is now deprived of that because they are forced financially to work in a field (in the literal sense).

DoreenMichele 7y ago
The world at large can make it work if people are willing to do these jobs for short periods of time in their youth before moving on to other things. The world is going to die of starvation if we literally can't find anyone who will do this work at all for any amount of time at any pay rate.
- kaybe 7y ago
  That basically seems to be New Zealand's (and Australia's?) mode of operation. Give the rich countries' young adults fresh out of school a work&travel visa for a year and extend it for a few months with sufficient farm work. They have fun doing new and interesting things and return to their countries with a good impression of yours. Of course that won't work if every place tries it though. I wonder how they're faring right now.
  - DoreenMichele 7y ago
    Thanks for that. I live in a small town with high unemployment and an excess of homeless people. I have fantasies of putting together an "irregular jobs/work" program to help connect locals with remote work, gig work, seasonal work, etc. My theory is that if you can find some way to connect people to "irregular jobs" who don't want (or can't reasonably do) "regular jobs," a lot of people would be willing to work who aren't working currently. When I and my sons were homeless, we tried to figure out how to find something like day labor jobs and we were mystified. I asked around on the internet and got a smidgen of feedback, but we never figured it out. I feel like something went wrong somewhere along the way and America no longer knows how to help people find work of that sort anymore. But maybe some of our social ills would improve if we found a solution to that piece of it.

DoreenMichele 7y ago

The world at large can make it work if people are willing to do these jobs for short periods of time in their youth before moving on to other things. The world is going to die of starvation if we literally can't find anyone who will do this work at all for any amount of time at any pay rate.

kaybe 7y ago
That basically seems to be New Zealand's (and Australia's?) mode of operation. Give the rich countries' young adults fresh out of school a work&travel visa for a year and extend it for a few months with sufficient farm work. They have fun doing new and interesting things and return to their countries with a good impression of yours. Of course that won't work if every place tries it though. I wonder how they're faring right now.
- DoreenMichele 7y ago
  Thanks for that. I live in a small town with high unemployment and an excess of homeless people. I have fantasies of putting together an "irregular jobs/work" program to help connect locals with remote work, gig work, seasonal work, etc. My theory is that if you can find some way to connect people to "irregular jobs" who don't want (or can't reasonably do) "regular jobs," a lot of people would be willing to work who aren't working currently. When I and my sons were homeless, we tried to figure out how to find something like day labor jobs and we were mystified. I asked around on the internet and got a smidgen of feedback, but we never figured it out. I feel like something went wrong somewhere along the way and America no longer knows how to help people find work of that sort anymore. But maybe some of our social ills would improve if we found a solution to that piece of it.