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> the Facebook SDK was collecting device information unnecessary for us to provide our services. Sorry state of Apple App security and privacy - all your apps

> the Facebook SDK was collecting device information unnecessary for us to provide our services. Sorry state of Apple App security and privacy - all your apps are swarms of data collection and privacy abuses. Apple built this world - and Apple is to blame. Zoom is to blame too. And finally individual app developers should also alert everyone on what's truly happening in their apps.

girvo 7y ago
While I have zero love for any given hyper capitalistic business like Apple, Android is not any better on the whole in this space, and in some ways measurably worse (especially when you take into account what devices actually hold the largest market share)
- tyingq 7y ago
  This is true, but Apple touts how much better they are about Privacy, and charges a premium for it. Google is more up front that they make little money on the initial sale, and are dependent on advertising to make money.
  - Justice4Yall 7y ago
    > Privacy is built in from the beginning. Our products and features include innovative privacy technologies and techniques designed to minimize how much of your data we — or anyone else — can access https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ Apple sells privacy, brags about privacy - yet Privacy is abused in from the beginning in the store apps.
    - type0 7y ago
      And the lesson is - you can't buy privacy but you can sell it.
  - doctor_eval 7y ago
    No. Apple charged a premium well before they started talking about privacy.
seviu 7y ago
I once had to integrate a third party tracking framework to an Android app. The PM wanted to track everything, even the apps that were installed on the device. Google immediately took our app down because of that. And preventing this from happening with SSL pinning is not a barrier for Google or Apple because they can easily bypass that. Since they have the means to inspect the traffic at scale then they should be able to filter out apps that are violating your privacy.

girvo 7y ago

While I have zero love for any given hyper capitalistic business like Apple, Android is not any better on the whole in this space, and in some ways measurably worse (especially when you take into account what devices actually hold the largest market share)

tyingq 7y ago
This is true, but Apple touts how much better they are about Privacy, and charges a premium for it. Google is more up front that they make little money on the initial sale, and are dependent on advertising to make money.
- Justice4Yall 7y ago
  > Privacy is built in from the beginning. Our products and features include innovative privacy technologies and techniques designed to minimize how much of your data we — or anyone else — can access https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ Apple sells privacy, brags about privacy - yet Privacy is abused in from the beginning in the store apps.
  - type0 7y ago
    And the lesson is - you can't buy privacy but you can sell it.
- doctor_eval 7y ago
  No. Apple charged a premium well before they started talking about privacy.

seviu 7y ago

I once had to integrate a third party tracking framework to an Android app. The PM wanted to track everything, even the apps that were installed on the device. Google immediately took our app down because of that. And preventing this from happening with SSL pinning is not a barrier for Google or Apple because they can easily bypass that. Since they have the means to inspect the traffic at scale then they should be able to filter out apps that are violating your privacy.