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I think you reacted too strongly, IMO. I only said some. People and their doctors are the MOST concerned with their lives...not you, not politicians, and not FD

I think you reacted too strongly, IMO. I only said some. People and their doctors are the MOST concerned with their lives...not you, not politicians, and not FDA staffers. If I want to treat my (illegal war) PTSD, depression or anxiety with novel treatments like 2CB, LSD, or MDMA, that is my choice. It immoral to restrict my supply with the barrel of a gun.

Reelin 7y ago
I completely agree - I had (mis)interpreted what you previously wrote to mean throwing them out entirely. I just can't stress enough that despite all their issues, the FDA still plays an absolutely essential role in keeping our society functioning.
Hello71 7y ago
the fda doesn't regulate any of those drugs, that's the dea.
hcknwscommenter 7y ago
The FDA is not what is restricting your supply of 2CB, LSD, and MDMA though. I think this present crisis is a perfect illustration of why the FDA is incredibly important. Just look at all the misunderstanding about chloroquine, hyrdoxychloroquine, chloroquine sulfate, etc. flying around.
csomar 7y ago
> People and their doctors are the MOST concerned with their lives That's exactly what makes them the most vulnerable. They are, in extreme conditions, desperate for a medicine and they'll lose sense because of that.
- CaptSkinny 7y ago
  Don't make the mistake of conflating concern for one's life with a desperation to avoid losing it. Safety concern is our own in-built countermeasure to desperate irrationally. The fallacy that patients cannot act rationally in the face of adversity is a common excuse for compulsory regulatory bodies. While there is value in having a centralized body like the FDA provide consumers with qualified advice on drugs and food, a certification authority can provide that information for individuals to use at their own prerogative.
landryraccoon 7y ago
You're conflating a different issue. Congress made those drugs illegal. The FDA can't unilaterally make those legal without the support off the President or Congress. If you want that policy to change, it'll have to happen at the voting booth, not because some FDA bureaucrat decided it.

Reelin 7y ago

I completely agree - I had (mis)interpreted what you previously wrote to mean throwing them out entirely. I just can't stress enough that despite all their issues, the FDA still plays an absolutely essential role in keeping our society functioning.

Hello71 7y ago

the fda doesn't regulate any of those drugs, that's the dea.

hcknwscommenter 7y ago

The FDA is not what is restricting your supply of 2CB, LSD, and MDMA though. I think this present crisis is a perfect illustration of why the FDA is incredibly important. Just look at all the misunderstanding about chloroquine, hyrdoxychloroquine, chloroquine sulfate, etc. flying around.

csomar 7y ago

> People and their doctors are the MOST concerned with their lives That's exactly what makes them the most vulnerable. They are, in extreme conditions, desperate for a medicine and they'll lose sense because of that.

CaptSkinny 7y ago
Don't make the mistake of conflating concern for one's life with a desperation to avoid losing it. Safety concern is our own in-built countermeasure to desperate irrationally. The fallacy that patients cannot act rationally in the face of adversity is a common excuse for compulsory regulatory bodies. While there is value in having a centralized body like the FDA provide consumers with qualified advice on drugs and food, a certification authority can provide that information for individuals to use at their own prerogative.

landryraccoon 7y ago

You're conflating a different issue. Congress made those drugs illegal. The FDA can't unilaterally make those legal without the support off the President or Congress. If you want that policy to change, it'll have to happen at the voting booth, not because some FDA bureaucrat decided it.