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Thank god I don't live in a society where people get fired for unionising. I don't understand how such a thing happens in any democratic society. Do workers r

Thank god I don't live in a society where people get fired for unionising. I don't understand how such a thing happens in any democratic society. Do workers really not like the idea of collective bargaining, or are there more business owners than workers in your state/country?

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> Do people really not like the idea of collective bargaining Since the gutting of private-sector unions, the average American’s exposure to collective bargaining is public employee union strikes.
- markdown 7y ago
  Your implication being that the average American who is negatively affected by a public employee union strike takes the side of the government and blames workers for inconveniencing them?
  - drjesusphd 7y ago
    It's far more petty than that. No one actually has to be inconvenienced. The average American is just plain resentful of unionized public employees.
    - CamperBob2 7y ago
      Yes, it's one thing to gang up to extort General Motors, and another thing entirely to gang up to extort the taxpayer. Public-sector unions should not be a thing.
    - Der_Einzige 7y ago
      Maybe it's because police unions form a sizable chunk of those unions...
    - wolco 7y ago
      Jealous because they get benefits private companies don't offer anyone below a certain level. This is accepted because top level pay is so mucher higher. Unionized employees realized it is better we get more now and take less if/when we make it to the top(which won't happen anyways).
      - andromeduck 7y ago
        Don't forget screwing the next generation! Unions love incumbancy.
grosswait 7y ago
Because we see incompetent employees constantly protected by unions and unions themselves become corrupt money making operations that become a business into themselves with a focus on self service and self preservation over that of their members long term interests. Very similar to politicians.
- ausbah 7y ago
  That still isn't an excuse to completely destroy unions tipping the business vs labor competition completely in favor of business. We don't completely dismantle businesses whenever they exhibit "corrupt behavior".
- asjw 7y ago
  We also see corrupt and incompetent companies that fraud states and customers everyday and bribe politicians to make their scams legal Why don't you abolish them?

JumpCrisscross 7y ago

> Do people really not like the idea of collective bargaining Since the gutting of private-sector unions, the average American’s exposure to collective bargaining is public employee union strikes.

markdown 7y ago
Your implication being that the average American who is negatively affected by a public employee union strike takes the side of the government and blames workers for inconveniencing them?
- drjesusphd 7y ago
  It's far more petty than that. No one actually has to be inconvenienced. The average American is just plain resentful of unionized public employees.
  - CamperBob2 7y ago
    Yes, it's one thing to gang up to extort General Motors, and another thing entirely to gang up to extort the taxpayer. Public-sector unions should not be a thing.
  - Der_Einzige 7y ago
    Maybe it's because police unions form a sizable chunk of those unions...
  - wolco 7y ago
    Jealous because they get benefits private companies don't offer anyone below a certain level. This is accepted because top level pay is so mucher higher. Unionized employees realized it is better we get more now and take less if/when we make it to the top(which won't happen anyways).
    - andromeduck 7y ago
      Don't forget screwing the next generation! Unions love incumbancy.

grosswait 7y ago

Because we see incompetent employees constantly protected by unions and unions themselves become corrupt money making operations that become a business into themselves with a focus on self service and self preservation over that of their members long term interests. Very similar to politicians.

ausbah 7y ago
That still isn't an excuse to completely destroy unions tipping the business vs labor competition completely in favor of business. We don't completely dismantle businesses whenever they exhibit "corrupt behavior".
asjw 7y ago
We also see corrupt and incompetent companies that fraud states and customers everyday and bribe politicians to make their scams legal Why don't you abolish them?