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And in countries where children need income to eat, we've seen that banning child labor pushes children into the sex trade, because they don't stop needing to e
by Matticus_Rex 7y ago
And in countries where children need income to eat, we've seen that banning child labor pushes children into the sex trade, because they don't stop needing to eat when you make it illegal for them to work. Hardly a good example of why the argument is wrong.
- Ericson2314 7y agoActually it is. The labor market on its own cannot ensure a dignified existence—if the supply is to big people will stoop. Banning jobs doesn't help much yes, but that doesn't mean the market on its own is good. The action that does help is shrinking the supply. UBI so less need to work, or need to work as much.
- imgabe 7y agoNobody can ensure dignity for someone else. You either conduct yourself with dignity or you don't.
- mirimir 7y agoThat's pretty hard core. I do rather think that, after decades doing Landmark. But there is this thing called compassion.
- AlexandrB 7y agoAmazing insight. I hope we invent time travel so you can tell that to the slaves of various civilizations throughout history.
- imgabe 7y agoWho do you have in charge of your dignity?
- DoreenMichele 7y agoYou're not flat out wrong, but it takes a great spirit to rise above it all in that fashion. This is probably a pointless pissing contest, not an argument you can win.
- mirimir 7y agoDoesn't the sex trade count as labor? Also, it's generally parents who provide food for their kids. And if they can't, governments ought to do so. So "sex trade" ought never to be an option. Edit: A boy in my wife's family died in ~1900, working as a breaker boy in eastern Pennsylvania.[0] Or at least, there's a note to that effect in her family Bible. 0) https://thebreakerboysbrianeicher.weebly.com/the-work-of-a-breaker-boy.html https://thebreakerboysbrianeicher.weebly.com/the-work-of-a-b...
- Matticus_Rex 7y agoAh, yes, making it double illegal for children to enter the sex trade will fix it!
- wpietri 7y ago[citation needed] Further, it's not like the only two options available are "exploit children in factories" and "exploit children in brothels". Things like the bolsa familia, for example, have been very effective.
- Matticus_Rex 7y agoThe canonical citation there is the UNICEF report on children and families from 1997 (I think that's the year -- it's been a while since I was immersed in that literature) following the Bangladesh child labor ban.