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Samsung was in this space too. Gave it up ahead of the curve, seeing how people don't buy cameras anymore. It wasn't a very profitable business for Samsung, des

Samsung was in this space too. Gave it up ahead of the curve, seeing how people don't buy cameras anymore. It wasn't a very profitable business for Samsung, despite making a great camera system. Sony jumped out ahead too. But hasn't really innovated in the last round. They were the best in autofocus, but Canon has great autofocus too. Canon Beats Sony with much more pleasing image colors, and huge lens selection. Panasonic has better stabilization, and makes better video cameras. I would compare Sony to a 1 inch thick Razor Gaming Laptop. Great on specs. Kind of sucks as a laptop. Still Sony has a very popular midrange camera system. And their low light performance is the best.

parston_michel 7y ago
I have a "1 inch thick Razor Gaming Laptop". It's an absolutely fantastic notebook computer. It can maintain high power states indefinitely with two huge bottom mounted intake fans. Excellent mobile workstation. Do NOT use it on your lap.
mortenjorck 7y ago
If the A7/A9 series are analogous to a Razer laptop, the a6000 series would be the Lenovo Yoga. Very compact and performant, if a little complicated.
atombender 7y ago
I have the Samsung NX300 mirrorless camera sitting in a drawer. It was actually a fantastic camera for its time, quite a lot like the Sony A6xxxx series (I have the A6300), and with very good lenses such as the 20mm pancake.
hatsunearu 7y ago
I wish samsung didn't give up. The cameras basically ran Android and could have been really fun with app development and whatnot. edit: also, just something that ticks me off: Razer does not make 1 inch gaming laptops. Their whole schtick is that they have "gaming ultrabooks".
- gruez 7y ago
  >edit: also, just something that ticks me off: Razer does not make 1 inch gaming laptops. Their whole schtick is that they have "gaming ultrabooks". What's the difference between a gaming laptop and a gaming ultrabook? AFAIK "ultrabook" is just a branding term by Intel.
  - hatsunearu 7y ago
    well, i mean that Razer does not make 1 inch thick gaming laptops. They make thin gaming laptops
starky 7y ago
I'm curious as to why you say they haven't really innovated in the last round? "Real-time tracking AF" was pretty mind-blowing at release and forced Canon and Nikon to spend the past year making firmware updates to their bodies to try to get closer. Not to mention that the Sony A7RIV debuted their 61MP sensor. In reality, the cameras available on the market today are amazing and take excellent photos in most conditions. Rather than trying to push the envelope I'd much rather see some of these companies try to refine their products to make them nicer to use. You could definitely make the claims about lack of innovation in the latest A6XXX series and the A9II though, both of those were small iterative upgrades that ignored some very real issues with those cameras.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  “Rather than trying to push the envelope I'd much rather see some of these companies try to refine their products to make them nicer to use.” Same for my Fuji X-T3. It’s a great camera but there a few annoyances that get mentioned on a lot of forums (meaning I am not the only one) but they aren’t being addressed although it would be a simple change.
- jungletime 7y ago
  I don't want to get into an argument about specs. Huawei and Samsung just released a 100 MP phone this month. So even in the specs department, Sony is behind, and was no further ahead than phones back then. Increasing mega pixel count, and adding eye tracking is not that innovative. Computers could do eye tracking for a long time. Also for video, really fast auto focus is not always desirable. Sometimes you want a slower smoother ramp. You also don't want everything to be in focus, often you want things to be blurred out in the background, to bring attention to your subject. The small choice of lenses, really limits how you can do that on a sony camera. The lack of stabilization, horrible rolling shutter, and plastic look to their image, with awful skin tones, is what Sony should innovate on. Here's a video comparison of skin tones. This girl switched from a $500 Canon g7x mark ii to a $1000 Sony RX one generation ahead. Canon has 1080p, Sony 4k. You would thing it would be an easy win for the Sony. But sony somehow Sony manages to bring out every blemish and adds a green tone to her face. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5db87f9d399d0-sony-rx-vs-canon-g7x.php http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5db87f9d399d0-sony-rx-vs-ca... This guy does funny camera reviews. Perfectly summarizes what some of the problems with Sony are. https://youtu.be/Xf6Y1QPXRb0?t=238 https://youtu.be/Xf6Y1QPXRb0?t=238

parston_michel 7y ago

I have a "1 inch thick Razor Gaming Laptop". It's an absolutely fantastic notebook computer. It can maintain high power states indefinitely with two huge bottom mounted intake fans. Excellent mobile workstation. Do NOT use it on your lap.

mortenjorck 7y ago

If the A7/A9 series are analogous to a Razer laptop, the a6000 series would be the Lenovo Yoga. Very compact and performant, if a little complicated.

atombender 7y ago

I have the Samsung NX300 mirrorless camera sitting in a drawer. It was actually a fantastic camera for its time, quite a lot like the Sony A6xxxx series (I have the A6300), and with very good lenses such as the 20mm pancake.

hatsunearu 7y ago

I wish samsung didn't give up. The cameras basically ran Android and could have been really fun with app development and whatnot. edit: also, just something that ticks me off: Razer does not make 1 inch gaming laptops. Their whole schtick is that they have "gaming ultrabooks".

gruez 7y ago
>edit: also, just something that ticks me off: Razer does not make 1 inch gaming laptops. Their whole schtick is that they have "gaming ultrabooks". What's the difference between a gaming laptop and a gaming ultrabook? AFAIK "ultrabook" is just a branding term by Intel.
- hatsunearu 7y ago
  well, i mean that Razer does not make 1 inch thick gaming laptops. They make thin gaming laptops

starky 7y ago

I'm curious as to why you say they haven't really innovated in the last round? "Real-time tracking AF" was pretty mind-blowing at release and forced Canon and Nikon to spend the past year making firmware updates to their bodies to try to get closer. Not to mention that the Sony A7RIV debuted their 61MP sensor. In reality, the cameras available on the market today are amazing and take excellent photos in most conditions. Rather than trying to push the envelope I'd much rather see some of these companies try to refine their products to make them nicer to use. You could definitely make the claims about lack of innovation in the latest A6XXX series and the A9II though, both of those were small iterative upgrades that ignored some very real issues with those cameras.

Ididntdothis 7y ago
“Rather than trying to push the envelope I'd much rather see some of these companies try to refine their products to make them nicer to use.” Same for my Fuji X-T3. It’s a great camera but there a few annoyances that get mentioned on a lot of forums (meaning I am not the only one) but they aren’t being addressed although it would be a simple change.
jungletime 7y ago
I don't want to get into an argument about specs. Huawei and Samsung just released a 100 MP phone this month. So even in the specs department, Sony is behind, and was no further ahead than phones back then. Increasing mega pixel count, and adding eye tracking is not that innovative. Computers could do eye tracking for a long time. Also for video, really fast auto focus is not always desirable. Sometimes you want a slower smoother ramp. You also don't want everything to be in focus, often you want things to be blurred out in the background, to bring attention to your subject. The small choice of lenses, really limits how you can do that on a sony camera. The lack of stabilization, horrible rolling shutter, and plastic look to their image, with awful skin tones, is what Sony should innovate on. Here's a video comparison of skin tones. This girl switched from a $500 Canon g7x mark ii to a $1000 Sony RX one generation ahead. Canon has 1080p, Sony 4k. You would thing it would be an easy win for the Sony. But sony somehow Sony manages to bring out every blemish and adds a green tone to her face. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5db87f9d399d0-sony-rx-vs-canon-g7x.php http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5db87f9d399d0-sony-rx-vs-ca... This guy does funny camera reviews. Perfectly summarizes what some of the problems with Sony are. https://youtu.be/Xf6Y1QPXRb0?t=238 https://youtu.be/Xf6Y1QPXRb0?t=238