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Are you volunteering to be one of the unlucky 2%?

trhway 7y ago
giving the [good] health and history i don't see any serious risk for me from the virus, and considering that it is hardly a choice - like many i'll most probably get it in time anyway as i don't believe it can be contained until herd immunity is achieved (and many people will die in the meantime until some big breakthrough(s) is achieved like mass availability of the antibody plasma for example) - so personally it is just a matter of getting it earlier or later, getting it in controlled manner/scheduled/prepared/etc. vs. at random time, etc. Some selfish factors may play a role too like having guaranteed medical attention in the low probable case of the things going wrong for example.
arcticbull 7y ago
In a young person with no co-morbid conditions, the risk is not 2%, it's 0.1% -- at most, and we're all going to get it. #flattenthecurve is not about containment, it's about slowing the spread so that hospital capacity to care for the small fraction who need it can be ramped to match. Sooner or later some 270 million Americans will have had it, and we'll develop herd immunity. It'll most likely end up a seasonal virus like the flu. With the high R0 and the fact so many people end up with no symptoms, negligible symptoms or mild flu-like symptoms, it can't really be stopped. I'd volunteer. Not that I think we should, though.
Robotbeat 7y ago
If it'd save a bunch of lives, I'd volunteer if someone were hired to help my wife with the kids (along with a generous insurance package and wage) and if it were early in the pandemic where there's still plenty of healthcare system capacity.
dogma1138 7y ago
People volunteer to donate organs despite a higher likelihood of harm than getting COVID-19 if you are 18-24 without any comorbidities. If this would be an effective solution people would volunteer for sure. The UK had 750,000 people signing up to volunteer for the NHS which could expose them to getting infected in the midst of the epidemic without guarantee of even getting admitted to a hospital if the situation would continue to escalate. If you think you won’t get 1000’s of volunteers for a relatively low risk infection that would put you under 24/7 VIP medical observation and would likely get you first access to any medical assistance required if things would turn to the worse you clearly don’t understand people well enough. And this is without the potential financial and societal benefits those people would directly and indirectly receive. People are doing a lot more dangerous things for a lot less of a pay out in a daily basis.

giving the [good] health and history i don't see any serious risk for me from the virus, and considering that it is hardly a choice - like many i'll most probably get it in time anyway as i don't believe it can be contained until herd immunity is achieved (and many people will die in the meantime until some big breakthrough(s) is achieved like mass availability of the antibody plasma for example) - so personally it is just a matter of getting it earlier or later, getting it in controlled manner/scheduled/prepared/etc. vs. at random time, etc. Some selfish factors may play a role too like having guaranteed medical attention in the low probable case of the things going wrong for example.

arcticbull 7y ago

In a young person with no co-morbid conditions, the risk is not 2%, it's 0.1% -- at most, and we're all going to get it. #flattenthecurve is not about containment, it's about slowing the spread so that hospital capacity to care for the small fraction who need it can be ramped to match. Sooner or later some 270 million Americans will have had it, and we'll develop herd immunity. It'll most likely end up a seasonal virus like the flu. With the high R0 and the fact so many people end up with no symptoms, negligible symptoms or mild flu-like symptoms, it can't really be stopped. I'd volunteer. Not that I think we should, though.

Robotbeat 7y ago

If it'd save a bunch of lives, I'd volunteer if someone were hired to help my wife with the kids (along with a generous insurance package and wage) and if it were early in the pandemic where there's still plenty of healthcare system capacity.

dogma1138 7y ago

People volunteer to donate organs despite a higher likelihood of harm than getting COVID-19 if you are 18-24 without any comorbidities. If this would be an effective solution people would volunteer for sure. The UK had 750,000 people signing up to volunteer for the NHS which could expose them to getting infected in the midst of the epidemic without guarantee of even getting admitted to a hospital if the situation would continue to escalate. If you think you won’t get 1000’s of volunteers for a relatively low risk infection that would put you under 24/7 VIP medical observation and would likely get you first access to any medical assistance required if things would turn to the worse you clearly don’t understand people well enough. And this is without the potential financial and societal benefits those people would directly and indirectly receive. People are doing a lot more dangerous things for a lot less of a pay out in a daily basis.