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The author should first discuss what is already out there and working very well. Start with Pleroma (Mastodon) and IndieWeb.

by aklemm 7y ago

progval 7y ago
and RSS. The only thing they seem to miss from the author's description is: "It has to be decentralized. The database would be hosted on many computers and each new entry would be processed using some sort of consensus algorithm." But there's no motivation for why this is a expected property of the network
- ryanolsonx 7y ago
  RSS came to my mind too. If everyone self-hosted something that gives an RSS feed, your social network feed could really just be an RSS reader.
  - brisky 7y ago
    RSS is a good example. In the simplest form my proposed social network structure could be seen as RSS feed of all the social web that is stored in a decentralized database. The main feature is that the posts can be 'liked' or 'upvoted' by users (domains).
    - sovok_x 7y ago
      The sudden idea is to separate metadata and content on different services and merge them only for viewing and interaction. Then users can selfhost content and request its distributed social metadata (upvotes, emotes, other people's comments etc) dynamically without easily losing control over the content itself.
askafriend 7y ago
Neither of those examples are working well - not even close. They "work" in the sense that they have a checklist of features that I'm sure function as intended. But the product/network as a whole is far from "working".
- progval 7y ago
  > But the product/network as a whole is far from "working". In what way?
  - elcomet 7y ago
    Number of users I guess.
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
- aklemm 7y ago
  Maybe, but the article needs to talk about that. That is my point. From my own view, I'm using both of those things and it does work, so why would I entertain a slough of new ideas to be started from scratch without seeing a compare and contrast discussion?
  - askafriend 7y ago
    Yep, that's fair pushback on the author; I agree.
verify_sirrah 7y ago
Masoton doesn't encode useful information in the URL like the author described in the first section.
- progval 7y ago
  It's an implementation detail. You probably just need to change the code of file to change the format of Mastodon's URLs: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/app/lib/activitypub/tag_manager.rb https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/app/lib/ac... and this line: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/config/routes.rb#L91 https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/config/rou...

The author should first discuss what is already out there and working very well. Start with Pleroma (Mastodon) and IndieWeb.

by aklemm 7y ago

The author should first discuss what is already out there and working very well. Start with Pleroma (Mastodon) and IndieWeb.

progval 7y ago

and RSS. The only thing they seem to miss from the author's description is: "It has to be decentralized. The database would be hosted on many computers and each new entry would be processed using some sort of consensus algorithm." But there's no motivation for why this is a expected property of the network

ryanolsonx 7y ago
RSS came to my mind too. If everyone self-hosted something that gives an RSS feed, your social network feed could really just be an RSS reader.
- brisky 7y ago
  RSS is a good example. In the simplest form my proposed social network structure could be seen as RSS feed of all the social web that is stored in a decentralized database. The main feature is that the posts can be 'liked' or 'upvoted' by users (domains).
  - sovok_x 7y ago
    The sudden idea is to separate metadata and content on different services and merge them only for viewing and interaction. Then users can selfhost content and request its distributed social metadata (upvotes, emotes, other people's comments etc) dynamically without easily losing control over the content itself.

askafriend 7y ago

Neither of those examples are working well - not even close. They "work" in the sense that they have a checklist of features that I'm sure function as intended. But the product/network as a whole is far from "working".

progval 7y ago
> But the product/network as a whole is far from "working". In what way?
- elcomet 7y ago
  Number of users I guess.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
aklemm 7y ago
Maybe, but the article needs to talk about that. That is my point. From my own view, I'm using both of those things and it does work, so why would I entertain a slough of new ideas to be started from scratch without seeing a compare and contrast discussion?
- askafriend 7y ago
  Yep, that's fair pushback on the author; I agree.

verify_sirrah 7y ago

Masoton doesn't encode useful information in the URL like the author described in the first section.

progval 7y ago
It's an implementation detail. You probably just need to change the code of file to change the format of Mastodon's URLs: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/app/lib/activitypub/tag_manager.rb https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/app/lib/ac... and this line: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/config/routes.rb#L91 https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/config/rou...