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Most autoimmune disorders are either infections or gut dysbiosis, which is actually pretty close to an infection too. It's sad the establishment is taking so l

• James_Henry 7y ago
  Have the establishment really been pushing against these ideas that hard? Molecular mimicry seems to be a rather old idea, but I'm thinking that the push back is maybe more about what to do with this idea treatment wise. You've definitely done more research and reading in this area, so perhaps you could expound on how the establishment is being slow?
  • treeman79 7y ago
    Extremely hard. I was given a preliminary diagnosis for an auto immune (Sjogrens) because among other weird symptoms I put down that antibiotics would resolve symptoms for several weeks. Doctor had noticed that people with Sjogrens often did better on antibiotics. He informed to find a rhumotogist that understood this. I can’t find any locally, and mentioning it gets me dismissed. They have been taught that it’s nonsense and they refuse to listen. Bringing in research just annoys them.
    • phnofive 7y ago
      First time I’ve heard of someone else with this experience - do your symptoms fluctuate with infections as well?
    • JamesBarney 7y ago
      Mind linking to the research between Sjogrens and antibiotics?
    • emmelaich 7y ago
      antibiotics can relieve symptoms in that they reduce inflammation.
  • snapetom 7y ago
    For Alzheimer's, yes, they have pushed hard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21911225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21911225 TFA looks at one researcher who was looking at antivirals. She has constantly gotten papers rejected and turned down for funding.
  • ClumsyPilot 7y ago
    I don't know much about this issue, but there is precedent where a doctor who discovered that stomach ulcers were cause by bacteria could not get any recognition for years. He ended up making a broth with the infection, and purposefully infecting himself to demonstrate his findings. Only then he was believed. https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-doctor-who-drank-infectious-broth-gave-himself-an-ulcer-and-solved-a-medical-mystery https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-doctor-who-drank...
• bitwize 7y ago
  Dr. Hackernews: Whatever it is, the underlying cause is inflammation or gut bacteria. And the cure is fasting.
• JamesBarney 7y ago
  The establishment(God I hate that word) all pretty much agree that the majority of autoimmune diseases are a self misclassification. The establishment also believes that gut dysbiosis and infections can trigger or play a role in this misclassification too. The problem is that a lot of enthusiasts believe this insight is a lot more beneficial than it is.
  • eternalny1 7y ago
    > The establishment(God I hate that word) all pretty much agree that the majority of autoimmune diseases are a self misclassification. Certainly not the majority, there are a lot of very severe auto-immune diseases that are very real. I had my immune system attack my thyroid gland 30 years ago (Graves Disease) and had to have it ablated completely with radioactive Iodine 131. My TSH was 0.00. I was skinny, angry, and losing my mind prior to being diagnosed. After stabilizing me (I just have to take Synthroid for the rest of my life), everything is normal again.
    • wahern 7y ago
      I think the point was that "Most autoimmune disorders are either infections or gut dysbiosis" is only true because "the majority of autoimmune diseases are a self misclassification." That is, most autoimmunue disorders [discussed as such online] aren't actually autoimmune disorders.
    • JamesBarney 7y ago
      I meant self classification in that the self misclassified certain proteins as an "other" and starts attacking it. And yes I agree they are very real and awful my grandmother had rheumatoid arthritis and it was terrible. My reply was to the link he posted where he talked about auto immune disorders.
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