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It's healthy in some ways and unhealthy in others. Overall, I guess I'd have to say that it's healthy since the quality of the content and discussion far excee
by ravenstine 7y ago
It's healthy in some ways and unhealthy in others. Overall, I guess I'd have to say that it's healthy since the quality of the content and discussion far exceeds Reddit, Twitter, etc.
But it's not without serious flaws. As others may have mentioned, there's a lot of groupthink here that's shrouded under very academic/intellectual pretense. Because everyone wants to look like they're on the cutting edge, the community creates this illusion that "only real developers use <insert language/framework of the day>". I'm almost certain that a lot of content gets no attention or isn't discussed because it's not considered cool.
However, this is nothing new. I haven't really seen this community degrade in that sense.
What has degraded is the community's attitude towards voting/downvoting. In my opinion, as I have expressed many times, the comment voting system is broken. Obviously, there needs to be some kind of community moderation, so I'm not necessarily saying that the system should be abolished(not yet), but it's not functioning that well in its current state. Users have to be extremely careful about what they post because, if misinterpreted in the slightest way, your opinion, even if civilized and valid, will be demoted. If your comment is even the slightest shade of grey, few will take it seriously, and it will be pushed down on the heap. All it takes is a few people to not like what you have to say and press the down arrow in the belief that their dislike should mean something.
Over the past maybe 4 years, I've noticed more people taking advantage of downvoting rather harmless comments without creating a discussion about why they feel that way. This is harmful because, due to the mechanics of downvoting, people are de-legitimizing others when they should really only reserve the down arrow button for "This comment is blatantly rule-breaking/offensive/wrong, and others shouldn't see it". The latter really should be a rarity.
I don't know if it's just the politics of our time that have encouraged everyone to hold strong opinions on everything, but the increase in downvoting behavior makes me believe that downvoting should be removed and replaced with flagging. Maybe HN runs on bare bones, but if something isn't breaking the rules, then it shouldn't be suppressed, but if something breaks the rules, moderation should know about it rather than letting randos on the internet determine what's legitimate and what isn't.
TL;DR The community is healthy in that it has above-average caliber in discussion, but there's a higher level of intellectual suppression and back-patting than I've seen elsewhere.