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I suspect, many of the "shit" jobs will "die" out, or at least need a lots less people. I could easily imagine trash-collection, deliveries, all-kinds-of drivin

I suspect, many of the "shit" jobs will "die" out, or at least need a lots less people. I could easily imagine trash-collection, deliveries, all-kinds-of driving, cleaning etc to become fully-ish(95%+) automated, if not entirely for large sectors. Hell, if BostonDynamics can build RoboSoldiers, that can salto and run parcour, they sure as hell can build something, that can scrub my toilet. Currently I can't afford their "house-hold"-chores model, but in ten years Samsung will probably have a line-up of models between 1000€ and 10000€

tracker1 7y ago
Plumbing will unlikely ever any time soon be fully automated... it's too varied in terms of existing structures until AI becomes actual life. Similar for a lot of "dirty jobs." Just look at how poorly the couple of attempts at McD's to automate the cooking processes, they failed miserably... Even today there's a lot of manual work in automated factories.
- stragies 7y ago
  It was my impression, that OP was using the term "shit jobs" to denote jobs with low pay, but high effort, manual, dangerous, etc. "Plumbing" is therefore not a "shit job". It's well paid compared to most (Uber/Taxi/etc-)driving, cleaning, trash-collecting and many other jobs.
  - tracker1 7y ago
    Trash collecting tends to pay pretty well too.
    - stragies 7y ago
      Yes, but trash collecting is super-easy to automate compared to automated "finding-of-plumbing-solutions". It all depends on the ratio "Ease-of-implementation" / "Cost of existing manpower" for each sector of job.
      - tracker1 7y ago
        Even then, your own definition of shit jobs, " low pay, but high effort, manual, dangerous, etc." doesn't really correspond that well. High effort and dangerous jobs usually pay well... low paying jobs are inherently manual, and/or likely to be automated away. In the end, some things don't automate well. There's a human aspect to a lot of things, and many of those won't be displaced soon. Of course, I do understand that many other jobs cannot fill the void that will be lost, especially with an ever expanding population.

tracker1 7y ago

Plumbing will unlikely ever any time soon be fully automated... it's too varied in terms of existing structures until AI becomes actual life. Similar for a lot of "dirty jobs." Just look at how poorly the couple of attempts at McD's to automate the cooking processes, they failed miserably... Even today there's a lot of manual work in automated factories.

stragies 7y ago
It was my impression, that OP was using the term "shit jobs" to denote jobs with low pay, but high effort, manual, dangerous, etc. "Plumbing" is therefore not a "shit job". It's well paid compared to most (Uber/Taxi/etc-)driving, cleaning, trash-collecting and many other jobs.
- tracker1 7y ago
  Trash collecting tends to pay pretty well too.
  - stragies 7y ago
    Yes, but trash collecting is super-easy to automate compared to automated "finding-of-plumbing-solutions". It all depends on the ratio "Ease-of-implementation" / "Cost of existing manpower" for each sector of job.
    - tracker1 7y ago
      Even then, your own definition of shit jobs, " low pay, but high effort, manual, dangerous, etc." doesn't really correspond that well. High effort and dangerous jobs usually pay well... low paying jobs are inherently manual, and/or likely to be automated away. In the end, some things don't automate well. There's a human aspect to a lot of things, and many of those won't be displaced soon. Of course, I do understand that many other jobs cannot fill the void that will be lost, especially with an ever expanding population.