I feel like people are just listing generically good ideas for social atmosphere, but to me an entire collection of those things does not amount to health -- th

I feel like people are just listing generically good ideas for social atmosphere, but to me an entire collection of those things does not amount to health -- things like warmth, empathy, forgiveness, etc. One of the things I notice about Hacker News is that it wants things. It wants all sorts of things. There's clash but there's also recognizable consensus on want. What I also see is that HN won't get what they want, and I don't believe they're any closer to effectively organizing to get what they want, whether it's unions or racially fair hiring or a different scheme in how money works. HN is not effective, and that is why I view them as unhealthy. HN wants things and it shall not have them. You can put warmth and love in that package, but it's still impotent.