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I agree, but Zoom is a publicly traded company. Their incentives aren't necessarily aligned with the public good. The question is "why should Zoom leadership c

I agree, but Zoom is a publicly traded company. Their incentives aren't necessarily aligned with the public good. The question is "why should Zoom leadership care about the recent privacy concerns if the vast majority of their customers don't care?" Their stock is up over 6% today while the market is down 4% (volatility caveats here obviously). So far the privacy concerns don't seem to be impacting the companies short or long term prospects, so I wouldn't expect the company to do the right thing.

chaps 7y ago
Surely, though, there is a way for zoom to do both at the same time. That you and one of your sibling posts gives them some benefit of the doubt (or at least the appearance of it) is... sad.
- nck4222 7y ago
  I'm not sure where I gave the impression of being ok with what zoom is doing, but I'm not. I'm saying this is the expected course given the incentives we as a society have established for companies. Hoping zoom and other companies prioritize the public good over profits is foolish, and the solution is to align profits with the public good.
  - chaps 7y ago
    It's because your response is the intellectual equivalent of throwing your hands in the air simply because you don't think you can have any contribution towards fixing the problem, and the only course of action forward is to simply describe why things are the way they are. It's complacent, and it's sad. It's a lot like someone complaining about Trump being elected, and you respond with "Yeah, but we live in a Democracy". It's not a very helpful comment, and it doesn't get us anywhere except to keep us in the exact same place we are today.
    - nck4222 7y ago
      >simply describe why things are the way they are. It's complacent, and it's sad. >It's not a very helpful comment I would think understanding the problem would be the first step to solving it. I'm not sitting here pretending I have all the answers. I saw an opportunity to shed some light on the situation so I commented. It seems weird to me that your critical of me for not contributing thoughts related directly to a solution, when you haven't contributed any thoughts about a solution either. To each their own I suppose. But consider me thoroughly uninterested in discussing this further, which, seems to be what you wanted from me anyway.
      - chaps 7y ago
        Welp, I hope you use your understanding of the situation to start fixing it like you propose. Otherwise they're just words in the wind. Peace, friend

chaps 7y ago

Surely, though, there is a way for zoom to do both at the same time. That you and one of your sibling posts gives them some benefit of the doubt (or at least the appearance of it) is... sad.

nck4222 7y ago
I'm not sure where I gave the impression of being ok with what zoom is doing, but I'm not. I'm saying this is the expected course given the incentives we as a society have established for companies. Hoping zoom and other companies prioritize the public good over profits is foolish, and the solution is to align profits with the public good.
- chaps 7y ago
  It's because your response is the intellectual equivalent of throwing your hands in the air simply because you don't think you can have any contribution towards fixing the problem, and the only course of action forward is to simply describe why things are the way they are. It's complacent, and it's sad. It's a lot like someone complaining about Trump being elected, and you respond with "Yeah, but we live in a Democracy". It's not a very helpful comment, and it doesn't get us anywhere except to keep us in the exact same place we are today.
  - nck4222 7y ago
    >simply describe why things are the way they are. It's complacent, and it's sad. >It's not a very helpful comment I would think understanding the problem would be the first step to solving it. I'm not sitting here pretending I have all the answers. I saw an opportunity to shed some light on the situation so I commented. It seems weird to me that your critical of me for not contributing thoughts related directly to a solution, when you haven't contributed any thoughts about a solution either. To each their own I suppose. But consider me thoroughly uninterested in discussing this further, which, seems to be what you wanted from me anyway.
    - chaps 7y ago
      Welp, I hope you use your understanding of the situation to start fixing it like you propose. Otherwise they're just words in the wind. Peace, friend