I don't know much about suicide in the US, but I do know a lot about suicide in the UK. Over here about 6500 people die by suicide each year. This is with the

I don't know much about suicide in the US, but I do know a lot about suicide in the UK. Over here about 6500 people die by suicide each year. This is with the broad definition used in the UK. Let's imagine a massive rise of 20% to give us 7800 deaths next year. It's much harder to get numbers for people who die when eating disorder is the underlying condition. Here's one reliable source. These numbers are likely to be much higher, so let's say the real numbers are ten times what's listed here. That would mean about 200 to 300 people die each year from eating disorder in the UK. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/008099deathsinvolvinganeatingdisorderenglandandwales2001to2016 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde... So that's about 8500 per year, if we massive inflate the numbers. The argument goes that covid-19 is about the same as flu. (That's wrong. It kills more people and it hospitalises more people). Flu in the UK kills about 17,000 per year. So, if covid-19 killed half as many people as flu does it overtakes our 8500 deaths to suicide and eating disorder. > but they will never be blamed on the shutdown. I don't know about the US, but in the UK our statisticians are pretty good at pointing to the wider determinants of health. For a while they've been saying that economic downturn in 2007 caused extra death by suicide. > Think of how many alcoholics will be created or relapse from spending days on end with nothing to do, bored in their home. How many of those will eventually die of alcoholism or kill people with their car? What about anorexics who recover but under quarantine and the anxiety of virus scaremongering relapse and ultimately starve to death? Your point here loses direction. You appear to be wanting to count these deaths as shutdown deaths, but definitely not as covid-19 related death. People with substance misused disorders or eating disorder are unable to have face to face meetings because of covid-19.