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I'm sure if we start a Twitter storm about it, we can get him cancelled. /s Personally I think it was just observational, perhaps they were the only women in t

by bArray 7y ago

I'm sure if we start a Twitter storm about it, we can get him cancelled. /s Personally I think it was just observational, perhaps they were the only women in the place, so they were the exception. From what I know, historically nurses have been mostly female - but would be interested to find out if this was different.

Insanity 7y ago
Yup that was my understanding as well. Not sure why I'm being downvoted, it was a genuine question lol
- Waterluvian 7y ago
  People are positively petrified of anything that even uses the same words as politically incorrect speech.
  - Tade0 7y ago
    I wonder how well this approach is going to survive the current pandemic? I mean, is it me, or the amount of posts calling to get someone cancelled subsided?
    - alharith 7y ago
      Are you kidding me? Look at the current hash tags on twitter. Miserable people never stop.
    - Waterluvian 7y ago
      The canary I'm watching is the whole "Chinese" or "Wuhan" vs. "COVID" virus naming issue. I think it is very clearly not the right time to point fingers. But when this is all past us, a post-mortem and finger pointing is probably warranted. I don't think we need to resort to name calling, but I'm curious to see how much people bend over backwards to absolve China of responsibility.
      - whatshisface 7y ago
        I think the most evenhanded answer would be to use the correct names (SARS-CoV-2 for the virus, Sars 2 for short, COVID-19 for the disease, Covid for short) while freely reminding people that China's initial cover-up was a necessary condition for the present global crisis.
        zaat 7y ago
        While these are all correct and proper, everyone I know is on first terms with it and so we all call the virus and the disease Corona.
        SCHiM 7y ago
        While I think that's a valid point to make. My perspective on that is that, given contradicting reports and initial confusion, you can't fault any organization or person not picking out the correct response in the total state space. Hindsight and all that. I think a much more powerful complaint is pointing out that, despite numerous warnings, studies, SARS, and having successfully isolated the root cause of the SARS outbreak (Civets). Only four months later these animals were back on the menu. The government made a rational choice to allow the conditions for the current situation to exist. The whole world is paying the price for this rational, prolonged and often pointed out mistake. That, I think, is a complaint we can lay wholly on the government.
        twomoretime 7y ago
        >My perspective on that is that, given contradicting reports and initial confusion, you can't fault any organization or person not picking out the correct response You can fault an authoritarian, oppressive regime for covering up the virus and suppressing whistleblowers. Now the world is paying for the CCP's SOP.
        throwaway894345 7y ago
        As an American, I was really disappointed in the CDC response. Even in the initial confusion, it's their fundamental job to prepare for and monitor these crises. Despite SARS and MURS, they still weren't prepared on a basic level to confront a respiratory disease (no meaningful stockpile of N95 masks or ventilators nor plans for ramping up production of the same) and then the whole debacle with the CDC vs WHO tests. The experts seem to be saying that tests are the most important aspect of the response and we botched that royally; only recently has our testing capacity begun to trend toward adequate (failing to address this sooner means the loss of life is exponentially greater). Note that these failures are independent of whatever initial confusion there may have been about this particular disease. And I don't think this is a simple case of hindsight: we've had several respiratory epidemics in the last couple of decades and we were still caught unprepared. I'm no expert and perhaps there is a reasonable explanation for all of this, but I suspect it was really negligence to the tune of thousands of American lives and who knows how much economic damage.
  - sdegutis 7y ago
    Explains the “playing the straight man” story recently in another thread.
  - cheez 7y ago
    Is this going to go away with the virus?
- gowld 7y ago
  Often a valid tangentialy comment gets rightly downvoted simply because its current vote total puts it higher on the page than more relevant comments.
- brlewis 7y ago
  Don't read anything into downvoting, especially soon after your comment is posted. Give it time to settle out.

by bArray 7y ago

Insanity 7y ago

Yup that was my understanding as well. Not sure why I'm being downvoted, it was a genuine question lol

Waterluvian 7y ago
People are positively petrified of anything that even uses the same words as politically incorrect speech.
- Tade0 7y ago
  I wonder how well this approach is going to survive the current pandemic? I mean, is it me, or the amount of posts calling to get someone cancelled subsided?
  - alharith 7y ago
    Are you kidding me? Look at the current hash tags on twitter. Miserable people never stop.
  - Waterluvian 7y ago
    The canary I'm watching is the whole "Chinese" or "Wuhan" vs. "COVID" virus naming issue. I think it is very clearly not the right time to point fingers. But when this is all past us, a post-mortem and finger pointing is probably warranted. I don't think we need to resort to name calling, but I'm curious to see how much people bend over backwards to absolve China of responsibility.
    - whatshisface 7y ago
      I think the most evenhanded answer would be to use the correct names (SARS-CoV-2 for the virus, Sars 2 for short, COVID-19 for the disease, Covid for short) while freely reminding people that China's initial cover-up was a necessary condition for the present global crisis.
      - zaat 7y ago
        While these are all correct and proper, everyone I know is on first terms with it and so we all call the virus and the disease Corona.
      - SCHiM 7y ago
        While I think that's a valid point to make. My perspective on that is that, given contradicting reports and initial confusion, you can't fault any organization or person not picking out the correct response in the total state space. Hindsight and all that. I think a much more powerful complaint is pointing out that, despite numerous warnings, studies, SARS, and having successfully isolated the root cause of the SARS outbreak (Civets). Only four months later these animals were back on the menu. The government made a rational choice to allow the conditions for the current situation to exist. The whole world is paying the price for this rational, prolonged and often pointed out mistake. That, I think, is a complaint we can lay wholly on the government.
        twomoretime 7y ago
        >My perspective on that is that, given contradicting reports and initial confusion, you can't fault any organization or person not picking out the correct response You can fault an authoritarian, oppressive regime for covering up the virus and suppressing whistleblowers. Now the world is paying for the CCP's SOP.
        throwaway894345 7y ago
        As an American, I was really disappointed in the CDC response. Even in the initial confusion, it's their fundamental job to prepare for and monitor these crises. Despite SARS and MURS, they still weren't prepared on a basic level to confront a respiratory disease (no meaningful stockpile of N95 masks or ventilators nor plans for ramping up production of the same) and then the whole debacle with the CDC vs WHO tests. The experts seem to be saying that tests are the most important aspect of the response and we botched that royally; only recently has our testing capacity begun to trend toward adequate (failing to address this sooner means the loss of life is exponentially greater). Note that these failures are independent of whatever initial confusion there may have been about this particular disease. And I don't think this is a simple case of hindsight: we've had several respiratory epidemics in the last couple of decades and we were still caught unprepared. I'm no expert and perhaps there is a reasonable explanation for all of this, but I suspect it was really negligence to the tune of thousands of American lives and who knows how much economic damage.
- sdegutis 7y ago
  Explains the “playing the straight man” story recently in another thread.
- cheez 7y ago
  Is this going to go away with the virus?
gowld 7y ago
Often a valid tangentialy comment gets rightly downvoted simply because its current vote total puts it higher on the page than more relevant comments.
brlewis 7y ago
Don't read anything into downvoting, especially soon after your comment is posted. Give it time to settle out.