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Looks like the gender disparity in mortality is not being taken into account. The excess risk for men is probably double what he estimates. https://www.theguar

• tasogare 7y ago
  Women "rights" activists are surprisingly mute on the matter, just like they are about the gap in men and women’s life expectancy in general. If they were congruent with the equality of outcome they’re trying the shove our throats down all the time they should advocate for some "measures" to address this gap too, which is even more important. Of the course they won’t, but it shows clearly how flawed they demands and arguments are.
  • jamesrcole 7y ago
    “Mute” isn’t the right word. https://www.google.com/search?q=coronavirus+gendered https://www.google.com/search?q=coronavirus+gendered See for example this speech from an Australian senator https://twitter.com/mehreenfaruqi/status/1242713728048455680?s=21 https://twitter.com/mehreenfaruqi/status/1242713728048455680...
  • bryanrasmussen 7y ago
    I think I've seen the issue brought up periodically by people on the women's rights side of the issue - example https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-the-patriarchy-is-killing-men/2019/09/12/2490fa7e-d3ea-11e9-86ac-0f250cc91758_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-the-patriarchy-is... but the argument is generally that the men's life expectancy problem will be solved as a side effect of solving the problem they want to solve. on edit: to clarify, I mean of course in regards to the general men's life expectancy problem, not the covid-19 enhanced experience of that problem.
  • CalRobert 7y ago
    This forum is generally open to considering contrarian ideas, however, your intensely lazy phrasing and lack of any real argument does not contribute to the discussion here. "Some women's rights advocates have a blind spot, causing (named negative effect of said advocates' policies that can be sourced or is commonly agreed), and this could be an opportunity to address those in light of the disease's disproportionate effect on men". - Not really a statement I agree with, but one I would at least listen to. And, as has been noted, plenty of advocates have pointed out the negative impacts of ["patriarchy", "traditional gender stereotypes", "etc"] on men, like smaller social circles and support groups in elderly men and the expectation to take on dangerous jobs (logging, for instance). Are you aware of these efforts?
    • Der_Einzige 7y ago
      Why your being downvoted I will never know. Hacker news is embarrassing to be a member of sometimes. The OP you responded to was absolutely lazy with the phrasing and hardly made an argument. You did the opposite and they downvoted you more. What the hell guys?
  • 7952 7y ago
    Why shouldn't an activist focus on one particular issue? People are sometimes more interested in one cause than another. A bowel cancer charity is not working to stop lung cancer. And a charity working to protect the rights of separated father's should not have to campaign against domestic violence.
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  • monadgonad 7y ago
    > they’re trying the shove our throats down all the time Ironic that you say this, yet you've clearly not actually listened to women's rights activists, because men's disproportionate deaths due to mental health/suicide is a major feminist talking point.
  • Der_Einzige 7y ago
    Bro it's cause women smoke less. Women also abuse alcohol less prolifically than men, but for coronavirus it's the smoking rate which is important If men treated themselves well than women wouldn't have better life expectancy You want equality of outcome? Tobbaco bans!