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At a certain point it's not about hiding cases, it's about hiding thousands of deaths and overwhelmed hospitals, complete with temporary tent facilities we coul

At a certain point it's not about hiding cases, it's about hiding thousands of deaths and overwhelmed hospitals, complete with temporary tent facilities we could see easily by satellite. Edit: Feel free to downvote this, but please offer an explanation as to precisely how China could be hiding an outbreak of any significant scale.

ck2 7y ago
It's not just China hiding deaths. There are many more deaths in the US than reported officially. Simply no testing before they die and of course none after, then they don't count it. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronavirus-update-dead-covid19-doctors-hospitals https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronaviru...
- microtherion 7y ago
  Similar things appear to be happening in Italy: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-homes-insigh-idUSKBN2152V0 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-... Ultimately, comparing year-over-year deaths may be a more accurate estimate than deaths of tested people.
MikeAmelung 7y ago
By just marking them down as general pneumonia like Russia probably is doing? This shit is NOT killing people at near the rate everyone is constantly panicking about. And if anyone was going to decide not to try to ventilate every single case, it would be China, who already released a report that in 81% of cases, they die anyway.
- ddxxdd 7y ago
  The rate you're referring to must be (number of deaths)/(number of cases). That rate is low, but the denominator grows at astronomical speed; evidence of the high numerator is going to show up eventually.
- standardUser 7y ago
  Healthcare facilities have the capacity to match the normal needs of a community/region. They don't tend to have a ton of capacity beyond that. This is the entire problem with coronavirus. It is new diseases that requires significant additional healthcare resources beyond what currently exists in any healthcare system.

ck2 7y ago

It's not just China hiding deaths. There are many more deaths in the US than reported officially. Simply no testing before they die and of course none after, then they don't count it. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronavirus-update-dead-covid19-doctors-hospitals https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronaviru...

microtherion 7y ago
Similar things appear to be happening in Italy: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-homes-insigh-idUSKBN2152V0 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-... Ultimately, comparing year-over-year deaths may be a more accurate estimate than deaths of tested people.

MikeAmelung 7y ago

By just marking them down as general pneumonia like Russia probably is doing? This shit is NOT killing people at near the rate everyone is constantly panicking about. And if anyone was going to decide not to try to ventilate every single case, it would be China, who already released a report that in 81% of cases, they die anyway.

ddxxdd 7y ago
The rate you're referring to must be (number of deaths)/(number of cases). That rate is low, but the denominator grows at astronomical speed; evidence of the high numerator is going to show up eventually.
standardUser 7y ago
Healthcare facilities have the capacity to match the normal needs of a community/region. They don't tend to have a ton of capacity beyond that. This is the entire problem with coronavirus. It is new diseases that requires significant additional healthcare resources beyond what currently exists in any healthcare system.