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I know more people who've had hospitalisation levels of illness from lettuce than meat, raw or otherwise. My wife was recently made very ill from some salad lea

I know more people who've had hospitalisation levels of illness from lettuce than meat, raw or otherwise. My wife was recently made very ill from some salad leaves. The vast majority of all food poisoning comes from greens. Not meat. Plenty of folks die from Salmonella and E. Coli outbreaks

Mountain_Skies 7y ago
Aren't those cases often due to washing greens with water contaminated by livestock waste?
- easytiger 7y ago
  No.
  - Mountain_Skies 7y ago
    While not definitive, it does appear there could be a connection. Certainly enough of a possibility for the industry to change some of their operational practices. https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/08/cattle-feedlot-could-be-to-blame-for-e-coli-in-canal-water-used-on-romaine/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/08/cattle-feedlot-could-...
geddy 7y ago
Sorry, but this is absolutely absurd to claim. Are you actually suggesting that keeping animals in cramped, filthy conditions, surrounded by dead baby animals covered in feces (ex. pigs in farrowing crates), is less likely to facilitate disease growth than growing romaine lettuce? Edit: I re-read your comment and saw you were referring to food POISONING - but I'll still maintain my point here. Fact of the matter is, food poisoning is not contagious and is fairly rare, and there are machines in place for product recalls, etc. What we have at the moment is a global pandemic started by the close quarters of animals. Which one would you rather deal with? And the reason it's more common to get salmonella or e-coli from plants is because they are eaten raw (lettuce or broccoli or carrots, etc); this doesn't mean meat isn't contaminated with it. It just gets "cooked off" because you heat meat (or pasteurize dairy).
- easytiger 7y ago
  > Sorry, but this is absolutely absurd to claim Why is it absurd? > is less likely to facilitate disease growth than growing romaine lettuce? As I clearly stated I was discussing, as with the parent comment, the community of diseases that infect consumers is massively more prevalent in eating salads than meat. That's not an opinion. You clearly want to have a different discussion
foxyv 7y ago
A very good point!

Mountain_Skies 7y ago

Aren't those cases often due to washing greens with water contaminated by livestock waste?

easytiger 7y ago
No.
- Mountain_Skies 7y ago
  While not definitive, it does appear there could be a connection. Certainly enough of a possibility for the industry to change some of their operational practices. https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/08/cattle-feedlot-could-be-to-blame-for-e-coli-in-canal-water-used-on-romaine/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/08/cattle-feedlot-could-...

geddy 7y ago

Sorry, but this is absolutely absurd to claim. Are you actually suggesting that keeping animals in cramped, filthy conditions, surrounded by dead baby animals covered in feces (ex. pigs in farrowing crates), is less likely to facilitate disease growth than growing romaine lettuce? Edit: I re-read your comment and saw you were referring to food POISONING - but I'll still maintain my point here. Fact of the matter is, food poisoning is not contagious and is fairly rare, and there are machines in place for product recalls, etc. What we have at the moment is a global pandemic started by the close quarters of animals. Which one would you rather deal with? And the reason it's more common to get salmonella or e-coli from plants is because they are eaten raw (lettuce or broccoli or carrots, etc); this doesn't mean meat isn't contaminated with it. It just gets "cooked off" because you heat meat (or pasteurize dairy).

easytiger 7y ago
> Sorry, but this is absolutely absurd to claim Why is it absurd? > is less likely to facilitate disease growth than growing romaine lettuce? As I clearly stated I was discussing, as with the parent comment, the community of diseases that infect consumers is massively more prevalent in eating salads than meat. That's not an opinion. You clearly want to have a different discussion

foxyv 7y ago

A very good point!