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How can you do without the modem? Which ubiquity product is that?

philg_jr 7y ago
Typically, FTTH doesn't require a "modem". In my case, I have VZ Fios in the northeast US. Their termination point at my house has an RJ45 Ethernet connection. It goes directly to my pfSense router.
- ksec 7y ago
  So they actually have an ONT somewhere and provides you with a RJ45 Ethernet port only? This is brilliant! Why aren't more ISP doing it? I dont want another ONT / Modem / piece of equipment in my flat.
  - NickNameNick 7y ago
    Same in New Zealand. There's a Huawei ONT fixed to the wall in the cupboard under the stairs, which is owned by the fibre network company. I have a short length of cat6 connecting that to my own router, and the fibre network company patched the far end to my choice of ISP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Fast_Broadband#Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Fast_Broadband#Technolog...
  - PhantomGremlin 7y ago
    Usually (always?) the way FiOS works is that every subscriber gets his own ONT. That ONT can be configured to output network bits on either an RJ45 port or using MoCA. For many people MoCA is more convenient because most houses and apartments are already wired for "cable", ie RG-6 for television purposes. FiOS is offered as a "triple play" service: internet, TV, and phone. Cable is the TV part of that. There usually isn't an existing Cat 6 connection from the ONT to the living area of the "flat". (Except we don't have "flats" here in the USA). So Verizon will use MoCA to send bits to a more conveniently located wireless access point that they can also supply. When Verizon installed my FiOS I didn't want to deal with MoCA or their access point, so I had them run Ethernet from the ONT to my den. I'm not clear on your objection to an ONT. They way GPON works is that the ONT has to be somewhere nearby; if it's not in your flat it still has to be elsewhere in the apartment building.
    - ksec 7y ago
      >I'm not clear on your objection to an ONT. Just one less pieces of equipment really. Having an RJ45 cable directly to Router is just a much cleaner solution. For those of us living in a extremely small sub 200 Square Feet apartment, getting rid of an equipment results in less cluster.
hugofloss 7y ago
I used the Unifi Security Gateway to replace my ISP's modem.
LeonM 7y ago
Fiber internet (at least where I live) is just a TCP/IP connection. You could even connect it straight to your PC and it would work. So, I use a SFP module that it suitable for the wavelength and mode of my fiber connection, and plugged that in an Ubiquity Edgerouter. In case of my ISP I had to configure a VLAN on the external interface, as they use separate VLANs for internet, TV and telephony. Once you configure the VLAN, the router will receive an IP address over DHCP and you'll be online.

Typically, FTTH doesn't require a "modem". In my case, I have VZ Fios in the northeast US. Their termination point at my house has an RJ45 Ethernet connection. It goes directly to my pfSense router.

ksec 7y ago
So they actually have an ONT somewhere and provides you with a RJ45 Ethernet port only? This is brilliant! Why aren't more ISP doing it? I dont want another ONT / Modem / piece of equipment in my flat.
- NickNameNick 7y ago
  Same in New Zealand. There's a Huawei ONT fixed to the wall in the cupboard under the stairs, which is owned by the fibre network company. I have a short length of cat6 connecting that to my own router, and the fibre network company patched the far end to my choice of ISP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Fast_Broadband#Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Fast_Broadband#Technolog...
- PhantomGremlin 7y ago
  Usually (always?) the way FiOS works is that every subscriber gets his own ONT. That ONT can be configured to output network bits on either an RJ45 port or using MoCA. For many people MoCA is more convenient because most houses and apartments are already wired for "cable", ie RG-6 for television purposes. FiOS is offered as a "triple play" service: internet, TV, and phone. Cable is the TV part of that. There usually isn't an existing Cat 6 connection from the ONT to the living area of the "flat". (Except we don't have "flats" here in the USA). So Verizon will use MoCA to send bits to a more conveniently located wireless access point that they can also supply. When Verizon installed my FiOS I didn't want to deal with MoCA or their access point, so I had them run Ethernet from the ONT to my den. I'm not clear on your objection to an ONT. They way GPON works is that the ONT has to be somewhere nearby; if it's not in your flat it still has to be elsewhere in the apartment building.
  - ksec 7y ago
    >I'm not clear on your objection to an ONT. Just one less pieces of equipment really. Having an RJ45 cable directly to Router is just a much cleaner solution. For those of us living in a extremely small sub 200 Square Feet apartment, getting rid of an equipment results in less cluster.

hugofloss 7y ago

I used the Unifi Security Gateway to replace my ISP's modem.

LeonM 7y ago

Fiber internet (at least where I live) is just a TCP/IP connection. You could even connect it straight to your PC and it would work. So, I use a SFP module that it suitable for the wavelength and mode of my fiber connection, and plugged that in an Ubiquity Edgerouter. In case of my ISP I had to configure a VLAN on the external interface, as they use separate VLANs for internet, TV and telephony. Once you configure the VLAN, the router will receive an IP address over DHCP and you'll be online.