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Adding alternatives (perhaps not usable now for no one but the interested reader): LLVM decided to start building their own last year: https://llvm.org/docs/Pro

Adding alternatives (perhaps not usable now for no one but the interested reader): LLVM decided to start building their own last year: https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/LLVMLibC.html https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/LLVMLibC.html

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quotemstr 7y ago
Of course they did.
antiquark 7y ago
Looks like llvm-libc is being written in C++. Which is... odd. https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/tree/master/libc/src/string https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/tree/master/libc/src/st...
- jupp0r 7y ago
  Why ist that odd? It makes lots of sense to manage resources via RAII for example. C++ has really good C interop too.
  - antiquark 7y ago
    It forces you to include a C++ compiler in your toolchain, which might not be possible for older systems, etc.
    - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
      Every system has a C++ compiler nowadays, and if they do not, you have plenty options to compile yourself one.
      - kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
        No they don't.
        jupp0r 7y ago
        Do you have an example? Keep in mind that we are not talking about the host platform here, but the target platform.
    - whizzter 7y ago
      Not a problem for LLVM since it's linker is always a cross-linker so if you're targetting a new (or only use the older platform as a compile target) then the initial cross-compile will be able to produce the binaries. If the older system can't support the LLVM toolchain memory wise or otherwise then it's not really a problem either. https://lld.llvm.org/ https://lld.llvm.org/
    - jupp0r 7y ago
      You only need a C++ compiler to build llvm-libc itself. You do not need a C++ compiler to use it in your C program.
- jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
  Why? libc is just an interface, you can implement it however you want.
- geraldcombs 7y ago
  Microsoft did the same thing for the Universal CRT. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/the-great-c-runtime-crt-refactoring/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/the-great-c-runtime-c...
jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
This great news, thanks a lot!

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quotemstr 7y ago

Of course they did.

antiquark 7y ago

Looks like llvm-libc is being written in C++. Which is... odd. https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/tree/master/libc/src/string https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/tree/master/libc/src/st...

jupp0r 7y ago
Why ist that odd? It makes lots of sense to manage resources via RAII for example. C++ has really good C interop too.
- antiquark 7y ago
  It forces you to include a C++ compiler in your toolchain, which might not be possible for older systems, etc.
  - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
    Every system has a C++ compiler nowadays, and if they do not, you have plenty options to compile yourself one.
    - kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
      No they don't.
      - jupp0r 7y ago
        Do you have an example? Keep in mind that we are not talking about the host platform here, but the target platform.
  - whizzter 7y ago
    Not a problem for LLVM since it's linker is always a cross-linker so if you're targetting a new (or only use the older platform as a compile target) then the initial cross-compile will be able to produce the binaries. If the older system can't support the LLVM toolchain memory wise or otherwise then it's not really a problem either. https://lld.llvm.org/ https://lld.llvm.org/
  - jupp0r 7y ago
    You only need a C++ compiler to build llvm-libc itself. You do not need a C++ compiler to use it in your C program.
jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
Why? libc is just an interface, you can implement it however you want.
geraldcombs 7y ago
Microsoft did the same thing for the Universal CRT. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/the-great-c-runtime-crt-refactoring/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/the-great-c-runtime-c...

jfkebwjsbx 7y ago

This great news, thanks a lot!