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Indeed, the sickest thing about this story is that it's the missing dot that's emphasized instead of mass killing with knives over words.

jrockway 18y ago
But that's the "fun" part. People brutally stabbing each other is booooring! In reality, I'm sure this guy would have murdered someone else anyway. I don't think one text message is enough to drive a sane person to attempt murder. The phrase "ticking time bomb" comes to mind.
- hugh 18y ago
  The other big problem with the story: the two words don't just differ by the dots on the "i"s, they also appear to end with a different vowel.
  - LogicHoleFlaw 18y ago
    I know nothing of Turkish. But it's extremely feasible that the trailing vowel is decided by tense or inflection. Note that the active subject changed between the two phrases. "You run out of arguments" vs. "They are ____ you."
    - ken 18y ago
      I studied Turkish in college, but it's been a few years. Turkish has "vowel harmony", so a suffix's vowels are determined by the preceding vowel. The ending "-IncE" (capital = "correct-by-harmony-rules vowel here") means roughly "when doing", and it can look like ınca or ince (or other variants) depending on the last vowel of the verb it's attached to. Literally "Zaten sen sıkışınca konuyu değiştiriyorsun" = "Anyway you (when-)get-stuck (to-the-)topic change(-now-you)". They don't quote the other reading of the sentence (or even the alternate word), so I think the "they are __ you" form was just the English translation. It's not even clear the message used an "e" -- just that "sikişince" is what it "looked like". I propose that people, when reading, tend to place more value in the root of a word than its suffixs. He probably typed "sikişinca", which I admit looks more like "sikişince" than it does "sıkışınca". Aren't agglutinative languages fun?
- iron_ball 18y ago
  RTA! It was his ex-girlfriend and her family that opted for murder, with her heading up the line at the knife buffet. She died of blood loss after he fought back, then he killed himself in prison.

jrockway 18y ago

But that's the "fun" part. People brutally stabbing each other is booooring! In reality, I'm sure this guy would have murdered someone else anyway. I don't think one text message is enough to drive a sane person to attempt murder. The phrase "ticking time bomb" comes to mind.

hugh 18y ago
The other big problem with the story: the two words don't just differ by the dots on the "i"s, they also appear to end with a different vowel.
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y ago
  I know nothing of Turkish. But it's extremely feasible that the trailing vowel is decided by tense or inflection. Note that the active subject changed between the two phrases. "You run out of arguments" vs. "They are ____ you."
  - ken 18y ago
    I studied Turkish in college, but it's been a few years. Turkish has "vowel harmony", so a suffix's vowels are determined by the preceding vowel. The ending "-IncE" (capital = "correct-by-harmony-rules vowel here") means roughly "when doing", and it can look like ınca or ince (or other variants) depending on the last vowel of the verb it's attached to. Literally "Zaten sen sıkışınca konuyu değiştiriyorsun" = "Anyway you (when-)get-stuck (to-the-)topic change(-now-you)". They don't quote the other reading of the sentence (or even the alternate word), so I think the "they are __ you" form was just the English translation. It's not even clear the message used an "e" -- just that "sikişince" is what it "looked like". I propose that people, when reading, tend to place more value in the root of a word than its suffixs. He probably typed "sikişinca", which I admit looks more like "sikişince" than it does "sıkışınca". Aren't agglutinative languages fun?
iron_ball 18y ago
RTA! It was his ex-girlfriend and her family that opted for murder, with her heading up the line at the knife buffet. She died of blood loss after he fought back, then he killed himself in prison.