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It seems more like a mix shift issue, than a real issue. If most of the fastest internet speeds are in offices, and people start working from home where slower
by wtvanhest 7y ago
It seems more like a mix shift issue, than a real issue.
If most of the fastest internet speeds are in offices, and people start working from home where slower speeds are located than average speed will decline.
- irrational 7y agoIs that true? My home connection has always been far faster than my office connection. Sometimes I go home just to download a particularly large file.
- phinnaeus 7y agoWhat kind of office is it and where is it located?
- 411111111111111 7y agonot the parent but that kind of situation is pretty normal in germany with consumer gigabit costs of about 50€/month. enterprise connections pay a premium, and smallish employers often don't want to spend money on monthly expenditures, so mostly ~50-200mbit shared between all people at the office
- gsich 7y agoOnly download. Upload is far worse usually.
- Roritharr 7y agoTo be fair, i spent 1500€/m for 1gbit fiber in the center of Frankfurt, which was considered cheap at the time. You can get 1g down, 50mbit up for less than a tenth of that with cable for example. We used that line heavily and I loved it, but I'm still unsure if I should rather have spent the money differently. We've moved now to a WeWork Style Location ( Studio from Tishman Speyer ) and are down to 100/100, have put our vpn equipment in a datacenter for 70€/m and nobody complains.
- 411111111111111 7y agorereading my message makes it sound like a complaint. That wasn't my intention at all. I know how much of a premium it costs and how little you need for anything but streaming video. The most efficient way is probably to get consumer cable through the CEO(for "private" access to YouTube etc) combined with a smallish business vdsl connection for everything company related.
- samoa42 7y agotrue, but qos is usually terrible and there is no sla to speak of on the consumer offerings. the most common offer (vodafone cable) has frequent outtages where you only hope is to call a robo-center and the optimal outcome is a troubleticket and maybe a refund. upload speed on gbit-cable is also only 50mbps... if your business relies on connectity, best to avoid it.
- kayoone 7y agothey are often "up to 1Gbps" and also not available everywhere. In my area it's also at least 70 EUR, so I am fine with 400Mbps at home.
- C1sc0cat 7y agoHow small if its over 5 or so They do know that consumer internet is asymmetrical and not practicable for real work. FYI ELM (ethernet last mile) at 70Mbs in the UK costs about £70 pm
- irrational 7y agoFortune 500 in Portland, Oregon. My home Internet is more than twice as fast as my office line.
- lotsofpulp 7y agoA dedicated 50mbps/50mbps fiber circuit for a business will be better quality than a home cable (coaxial) “100mbps” connection, shared between a million houses with 2mbps upload. Notice how you can’t even find upload bandwidth advertised for residential cable internet, much less other factors affecting connection quality.
- selimthegrim 7y agoHe may have fiber to the home
- irrational 7y agoI have a fiber optic line coming all the way to the box inside my home. The only coaxial line is the short line from the fiber box to the WiFi router.
- maccard 7y agothe fastest connection available to my home is ~60Mbps, my office has a 1Gb line, soon to be upgraded to 10Gb
- tyingq 7y agoMaybe not in your case, but it my case, that big pipe is shared with a lot of people, and full of MITM, shaping, "threat detection" etc, that makes it sloow. And currently fronted by a shite VPN for all of us working from home :)
- kayoone 7y agoif you work for smaller or non-tech companies maybe. My employers in the last 5 years have all had at least 1Gbps, current one has 10Gbps and a 2Gbps backup.
- loeg 7y agoOn the bigcorp end of things your corporate network is so fucked and the gateway to the public internet so slow you're back down to 50Mbit. With HTTPS MITM.
- lmilcin 7y agoI am really sorry you have bad experience with your Big Co. Understand, not every company is like that. Also there is no need for the kind of language. It definitely isn't helping your argument so you might just as well drop it.
- lmilcin 7y agoYour office connection is probably scaled well. If it was as fast as your home broadband it would mean your company overpays for it and actually looses productivity. Office work does not require fast Internet access and does not require that your Youtube videos load instantly. We did some research and it seems broadband Internet access does not improve productivity and may actually reduce it. Any minuscule increase in productivity (I mean a total of 5 minutes of loading times per employee per day) is meaningless. People can't focus on their real work for 8 hours straight. When Internet works faster, people just use more of it and are less selective about how they use it. People also get quickly used to increased performance and will be complaining at almost any performance point. Another research on build times showed that hugely increased build times don't improve productivity either. At first yes -- people get excited. But then, when build times are very short (say 5s compared to 10m) most (but not all) developers just stop staring constantly at their IDE and thinking about how to structure their code and instead reduce their iteration to a minimum (say couple of lines of code) and just restart to see if it works. This seems to actually reduce quality of produced code.
- Retric 7y agoI seriously doubt you had the kind of precision to measure a 1% change in productivity. What exactly where you measuring?
- jlokier 7y agoHa! If I want to download a particularly big file, I use tethering via my phone. Seriously, about 90Mbit/s download on the phone, that's faster than most places I've worked and also faster than my home connection. It was so obviously better, that I switched home to be on 4G instead of ADSL, because the 4G was both cheaper and faster. It's working out well, but the phone still manages to be faster than the router.
- wenc 7y agoYes. Most people don't realize this. (4G phone >> home internet) I tether my iPad to my 4G phone because the latency/bandwidth is much higher than my home internet (40mbps). I ran Speedtest on my phone vs my desktop with a wired connection to the router and learned that my 4G wireless connection was faster.
- stOneskull 7y agoI think most of my town must use 4G at home because between 4pm and midnight my ping is too annoyingly high to play counterstrike
- fpoling 7y agoIn Norway if one has a copper phone line into house, then the speed is typically bound by 40 Mbit/s. And it is not just rural areas. The apartment I live in is close to the center of Oslo. But as it is an old building with few flats it is not profitable to lay down the fiber even if it is just extra 10 meters from the near office building. With 4G with a good phone or modem one gets 50-300 MBit/s depending on the provider and coverage.
- briffle 7y agoFor most of us in the US, that does not work when you need to upload a file. (or synchronous communication, like video chatting, etc)
- tyingq 7y agoThere's also lots of bored folks at home streaming Netflix, Hulu, and the like. That would have been at work using a lot less bandwidth.
- notyourday 7y agoI've again switched to BTing what I want to watch rather than watching it streamed because 2-3 hour late evening binges became an exercise in frustration.