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It has less to do with management style and more to do with governmental construction. New Zealand is a unitary state. The US is a federal state. There are c

It has less to do with management style and more to do with governmental construction. New Zealand is a unitary state. The US is a federal state. There are concrete divisions of power and certain expectations of national power from both the people and the states (which hold separate, independent political power).

radiorental 7y ago
I am not talking about division of responsibilities but more the underlying tone of how to respond to the problem. We are not getting a clear, consistent and decisive message from the top in the UK or the US. How individual state in the US respond is regardless. A fish rots from the head down.
- tathougies 7y ago
  Trump has told people explicitly to stay inside, avoid work if possible, and instructed state governors to issue lockdowns, promising that they have his support. What more do you want? I'm honestly flabbergasted on this one. Trump's response has been more decisive than any past president in response to a national pandemic. Even during the 1918 flu, we never had such a large federal response.
  - macintux 7y ago
    Well, ignoring his intelligence community for months, downplaying it for the first few weeks once he started acknowledging it, and now advocating for a quick end to the lockdowns...
    - tathougies 7y ago
      > and now advocating for a quick end to the lockdowns... What rubbish. He's not advocating for it. He just said he hoped for it. Don't we all? > I said earlier today that I hope we can do this by Easter. I think that would be a great thing for our country and we’re all working very hard to make that a reality. We’ll be meeting with a lot of people to see if it can be done. Easter is a very special day for many reasons for me, for a lot of a lot of our friends. That’s a very special day and what a great timeline this would be. Easter as our timeline. What a great timeline that would be. That does not come across as advocating. But hoping. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-task-force-briefing-transcript-march-24 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... > My first priority is always the health and safety of the American people. I want everyone to understand that we are continuing to evaluate the data. When asked how he will decide to reopen the country: Sounds like they will continue the lockdowns if the data warrant it. Shouldn't we hope that all countries evaluate the data? > I think we’ll be looking at a lot of things. We’ll also be looking again at very large portions of our country and I will be guided very much by Dr. Fauci and by Deborah and by some of the other professionals that work with both of you. And we’re going to see what will be. I don't understand why the media doesn't correctly report on these issues. They just really dislike the orange dude
      - macintux 7y ago
        “I think it would be a beautiful time and it's just about the timeline that I think is right” What medical advisor could possibly have told him that timeline “is right”?
  - outworlder 7y ago
    Did you miss the part that this is all supposed to be over in 15 days (and the time is almost up)?
    - tathougies 7y ago
      Can you explain what you mean? White house said they'd reconsider in 15 days. My guess is they'll reconsider and stay with the current approach.
worik 7y ago
True. But worth noting that it is a minority government. The ruling party has to get the agreement of two other parties to act
- tathougies 7y ago
  I mean, the US congress is currently in a split party situation and has managed to work together and pass several stimulus bills already. Parties actually remarkably agree on what to do. The republicans were even calling for more federal aid this time.

radiorental 7y ago

I am not talking about division of responsibilities but more the underlying tone of how to respond to the problem. We are not getting a clear, consistent and decisive message from the top in the UK or the US. How individual state in the US respond is regardless. A fish rots from the head down.

tathougies 7y ago
Trump has told people explicitly to stay inside, avoid work if possible, and instructed state governors to issue lockdowns, promising that they have his support. What more do you want? I'm honestly flabbergasted on this one. Trump's response has been more decisive than any past president in response to a national pandemic. Even during the 1918 flu, we never had such a large federal response.
- macintux 7y ago
  Well, ignoring his intelligence community for months, downplaying it for the first few weeks once he started acknowledging it, and now advocating for a quick end to the lockdowns...
  - tathougies 7y ago
    > and now advocating for a quick end to the lockdowns... What rubbish. He's not advocating for it. He just said he hoped for it. Don't we all? > I said earlier today that I hope we can do this by Easter. I think that would be a great thing for our country and we’re all working very hard to make that a reality. We’ll be meeting with a lot of people to see if it can be done. Easter is a very special day for many reasons for me, for a lot of a lot of our friends. That’s a very special day and what a great timeline this would be. Easter as our timeline. What a great timeline that would be. That does not come across as advocating. But hoping. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-task-force-briefing-transcript-march-24 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... > My first priority is always the health and safety of the American people. I want everyone to understand that we are continuing to evaluate the data. When asked how he will decide to reopen the country: Sounds like they will continue the lockdowns if the data warrant it. Shouldn't we hope that all countries evaluate the data? > I think we’ll be looking at a lot of things. We’ll also be looking again at very large portions of our country and I will be guided very much by Dr. Fauci and by Deborah and by some of the other professionals that work with both of you. And we’re going to see what will be. I don't understand why the media doesn't correctly report on these issues. They just really dislike the orange dude
    - macintux 7y ago
      “I think it would be a beautiful time and it's just about the timeline that I think is right” What medical advisor could possibly have told him that timeline “is right”?
- outworlder 7y ago
  Did you miss the part that this is all supposed to be over in 15 days (and the time is almost up)?
  - tathougies 7y ago
    Can you explain what you mean? White house said they'd reconsider in 15 days. My guess is they'll reconsider and stay with the current approach.

worik 7y ago

True. But worth noting that it is a minority government. The ruling party has to get the agreement of two other parties to act

tathougies 7y ago
I mean, the US congress is currently in a split party situation and has managed to work together and pass several stimulus bills already. Parties actually remarkably agree on what to do. The republicans were even calling for more federal aid this time.