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I really wish YC would do their part and start nuking all the DIY ventilators articles. I don't want to wait for homebuilt vents and intubation to start killing
by dsl 7y ago
I really wish YC would do their part and start nuking all the DIY ventilators articles. I don't want to wait for homebuilt vents and intubation to start killing people before we put an end to this nonsense.
- redis_mlc 7y agoIt's a great illustration of why disaster coordinators want real engineers, not software engineers. Programmers, just get out your checkbooks and stop trying to help.
- jahewson 7y agoWhat’s a “real engineer”? Railroad Engineer? Civil Engineer? Aerospace Engineer?
- ironmagma 7y agoProbably someone with a PE license.
- Kalium 7y agoIn this case, I think it means someone with the perspective to think things through at a systems level and relevant domain expertise. So, a medical device engineer.
- krschultz 7y agoSomeone that has at least passed the fundamentals of engineering exam, preferably with a PE. Then we could guarantee a minimum understanding of the relevant fields.
- anonsubmit2671 7y agoDon't be cute. Professional Engineer / Chartered Engineer is a "real" engineer. A random coder calling themselves an "engineer" doesn't make them qualified to design and implement life-critical safety systems.
- _delirium 7y agoSome countries have that norm, but in the United States, PE licensing is fairly unusual, due to rules allowing corporations to have one PE sign off on the work of a lot of engineers. As a result, even in the case of critical medical equipment, most of the real engineers who scoped, designed, and tested the product are not PEs. Often the PE is more of a lawyer than an engineer. They typically do have an engineering degree, but are years out from any hands-on engineering work. They do final legal sign-off, and are knowledgeable about statutes and insurance policies, but rely on people with more recent technical experience to do any technical work.
- mcguire 7y ago"Some countries have that norm, but in the United States, PE licensing is fairly unusual, due to rules allowing corporations to have one PE sign off on the work of a lot of engineers." Which is significantly stronger than the state of software engineering.
- wraithm112 7y agoSure, I could imagine that is the case in fields like nuclear engineering. All the PEs I know are smart and have technical chops. Though, most of my PE friends are fairly young (early 30s) and are maybe on their way to that destination.
- jariel 7y agoThere is such a thing as Software Engineers, but most developers are not that.
- heavenlyblue 7y agoI assume Boeing engineers are enough
- theNarrative24 7y agoEngineer who pAssed the FE exam here. 9 years design experience. I can do math.. what's needed? I agree programmers are not on this level.
- ClumsyPilot 7y agoWhy 'level'? Its a different body of knowledge.
- jariel 7y agoTons of programmers are on that level - in fact, probably more developers at 'Engineering caliber' than any other Eng. discipline. That said - the vast majority of developers are nowhere near that. It's a really long tail.
- DoreenMichele 7y agoI've previously expressed my concerns that the focus on ventilators will lead to a secondary pandemic of antibiotic resistant secondary infections. But I don't think "nuking" these articles helps. I think it is much better for them to make the front page and get appropriately criticized. That pattern seems to be actively fostering better articles making it to the front page.
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