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>The GOP have convinced scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people that all the government does is waste their hard earned money paying benefits to poor

>The GOP have convinced scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people that all the government does is waste their hard earned money paying benefits to poor, non-working, non-white, non-Christian, non-citizen, LGBTQ's. It pains me to see something like this in a highly up-voted comment. The point about businesses never preparing for disaster is a good one, and one does not need to claim a party has scummy voters to make it. Adding such flamebait does not strengthen the point being made.

mistermann 7y ago
> It pains me to see something like this in a highly up-voted comment. The point about businesses never preparing for disaster is a good one, and one does not need to imply a party's voters are the scum of the earth to make it. Adding such flamebait does not strengthen the point being made. HN, like the rest of the internet and greater overall world, is losing its grasp on reality. Considering the average quality and truthfulness of reporting and public discourse, I don't think one should really be all that surprised. I have pointed this out to @dang a few times but he seems to be unable to see what I am talking about. I mean think about it guys - HN is overwhelming populated by tech folks, for whom disciplined, logical thinking is practically second nature due to decades of practice. And yet...look at the actual content of people's comments. We are ~all smart and logical, yet if a hyper-intelligent alien with zero context was to observe this discussion, would they not come away thinking that human consciousness runs on some sort of weird reality that is not consistent for all people, despite reality itself being right in front of our eyes? How is it possible that this is happening? What is going on here? This whole situation stopped making any sense to me a long time ago...am I the only one that feels like they may be literally going insane?
tzs 7y ago
I think you are reading too much into his comment. You are taking it as saying X = Y when I think it was meant as X ⊂ Y, where X = "scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people" and Y = GOP voters. We are in effect a two party system, at least for national offices and major state offices. Someone who falls under "scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people" has a choice: Democrat or Republican. They probably dislike many things in the platform of both parties, but they almost certainly find far more they dislike in the Democrat platform than the Republican one. Hence, they tend to vote GOP if they vote.
- mrfredward 7y ago
  The point that is valuable to the discussion is this: businesses don't worry about disaster preparedness, so the responsibility falls on government, and government run like a business won't prepare either. Which party racists vote for doesn't improve a discussion about governments buying medical supplies.

mistermann 7y ago

> It pains me to see something like this in a highly up-voted comment. The point about businesses never preparing for disaster is a good one, and one does not need to imply a party's voters are the scum of the earth to make it. Adding such flamebait does not strengthen the point being made. HN, like the rest of the internet and greater overall world, is losing its grasp on reality. Considering the average quality and truthfulness of reporting and public discourse, I don't think one should really be all that surprised. I have pointed this out to @dang a few times but he seems to be unable to see what I am talking about. I mean think about it guys - HN is overwhelming populated by tech folks, for whom disciplined, logical thinking is practically second nature due to decades of practice. And yet...look at the actual content of people's comments. We are ~all smart and logical, yet if a hyper-intelligent alien with zero context was to observe this discussion, would they not come away thinking that human consciousness runs on some sort of weird reality that is not consistent for all people, despite reality itself being right in front of our eyes? How is it possible that this is happening? What is going on here? This whole situation stopped making any sense to me a long time ago...am I the only one that feels like they may be literally going insane?

tzs 7y ago

I think you are reading too much into his comment. You are taking it as saying X = Y when I think it was meant as X ⊂ Y, where X = "scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people" and Y = GOP voters. We are in effect a two party system, at least for national offices and major state offices. Someone who falls under "scared white, Christian, racist, xenophobic people" has a choice: Democrat or Republican. They probably dislike many things in the platform of both parties, but they almost certainly find far more they dislike in the Democrat platform than the Republican one. Hence, they tend to vote GOP if they vote.

mrfredward 7y ago
The point that is valuable to the discussion is this: businesses don't worry about disaster preparedness, so the responsibility falls on government, and government run like a business won't prepare either. Which party racists vote for doesn't improve a discussion about governments buying medical supplies.