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Your response sound a little angry but maybe the tone is lost in the text so I will respond in good faith. > I hope you don't have any UX design responsibilies

Your response sound a little angry but maybe the tone is lost in the text so I will respond in good faith. > I hope you don't have any UX design responsibilies. I don't. We are safe. :) > For an app to work offline, you need to be able to at least cache the app itself. You can still do it, for a limited time. Your mission critical app will work offline if you are not planning to isolate your device from the internet forever. I know this doesn't solve the issue but I believe it is the lesser evil. > What about the "implicit consent" that bandwidth is being consumed? This always bugged me as well. This is unexplored territory for all browsers if I am not mistaken. > Imagine being prompted to import your data every time you launch it. I don't have to. I use draw.io excessively and it prompts me every single time. I actually appreciate the experience but I am a sample size of 1. > More like constantly reminding the user that their valuable progress gets wiped after seven days, should they make the poor choice to run the app offline. If it is valuable, maybe browser is not the best medium for it. Here, Apple's anti-consumer practice with its App Store becomes more relevant than Safari's localStorage algorithms. > "I'm sorry, we made a decision to write an app with technology that, in hindsight, we shouldn't have used. Therefore, your user experience will now be more annoying. Thanks for choosing sticking with us while we're rewriting the app!" "In order for 'Remember Me' to work as you expect, please visit us every once in while <3"

gridlockd 7y ago
> If it is valuable, maybe browser is not the best medium for it. Progressive web apps are not "the browser". It's a platform to ship apps using web technology that integrate into the operating system pretty like any other app, at least from the user's perspective. It works well enough on Android. If you have to explain to your users all the caveats that such an app has on their platform, it just becomes pointless. If it becomes pointless on iOS, then it becomes pointless in general. You might as well go with a Web View app then. Of course Apple has never been all that enthusiastic about PWAs, giving half-assed support at best. It was never a great platform to begin with, but now it's effectively dead in the water, at least for apps that are expected to work offline.

gridlockd 7y ago

> If it is valuable, maybe browser is not the best medium for it. Progressive web apps are not "the browser". It's a platform to ship apps using web technology that integrate into the operating system pretty like any other app, at least from the user's perspective. It works well enough on Android. If you have to explain to your users all the caveats that such an app has on their platform, it just becomes pointless. If it becomes pointless on iOS, then it becomes pointless in general. You might as well go with a Web View app then. Of course Apple has never been all that enthusiastic about PWAs, giving half-assed support at best. It was never a great platform to begin with, but now it's effectively dead in the water, at least for apps that are expected to work offline.