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Honestly, read the original message and consider how you would have replied. They showed work in a vacuum - demonstrated that dm-crypt has costs over raw devic

by _jal 7y ago

Honestly, read the original message and consider how you would have replied. They showed work in a vacuum - demonstrated that dm-crypt has costs over raw device access (I would hope so!) on some unknown hardware, and then asks "does this look right to you?" Well, yeah, that looks like it looks elsewhere, and by the way, there's a built-in command that also would have told you this. People whine about technical mailing lists, I think because they don't get the context. Think of them as sort of like water coolers at an office that specializes in whatever the list is about. You get a short slice of expert attention in between doing whatever they actually have to get done. Throwing a bunch of data on the floor and saying "hey, is this expected?" is not going to work well. Seriously, what were they expecting?

rrss 7y ago
> Well, yeah, that looks like it looks elsewhere, and by the way, there's a built-in command that also would have told you this. It's entirely possible to say both these things in a much more constructive and less condescending tone than was used.
- _jal 7y ago
  People are so very weirdly sensitive to these things when it is a big company that comes calling. Wonder why that is. Context matters. If you don't take the time to understand the context you're walking in to and don't follow local rules, don't be surprised if people are rude to you back. Not that I even think what they said was all that rude. Do you also think you can slide in to a gam3r chat and expect business etiquette?
  - manigandham 7y ago
    I don't think a crypto mailing list is the same as "gam3r" subreddit, but it wasn't that rude overall. It was the tone that they "dont understand" when in fact Cloudflare does understand crypto and performance very well, and went so far as to dive into kernel code and submit patches that fixed the problem that others didnt even realize existed. Even so I agree this isn't worth such a big discussion.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > People are so very weirdly sensitive to these things when it is a big company that comes calling. They're not sensitive when it's a "big company", they're sensitive when they're trying to get work done and they receive a flippant response.

by _jal 7y ago

rrss 7y ago

> Well, yeah, that looks like it looks elsewhere, and by the way, there's a built-in command that also would have told you this. It's entirely possible to say both these things in a much more constructive and less condescending tone than was used.

_jal 7y ago
People are so very weirdly sensitive to these things when it is a big company that comes calling. Wonder why that is. Context matters. If you don't take the time to understand the context you're walking in to and don't follow local rules, don't be surprised if people are rude to you back. Not that I even think what they said was all that rude. Do you also think you can slide in to a gam3r chat and expect business etiquette?
- manigandham 7y ago
  I don't think a crypto mailing list is the same as "gam3r" subreddit, but it wasn't that rude overall. It was the tone that they "dont understand" when in fact Cloudflare does understand crypto and performance very well, and went so far as to dive into kernel code and submit patches that fixed the problem that others didnt even realize existed. Even so I agree this isn't worth such a big discussion.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  > People are so very weirdly sensitive to these things when it is a big company that comes calling. They're not sensitive when it's a "big company", they're sensitive when they're trying to get work done and they receive a flippant response.