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Not allowing important data to be downloaded for cold storage is unacceptable.
by diegoperini 7y ago
Not allowing important data to be downloaded for cold storage is unacceptable.
- aquadrop 7y agoOk, allowing, then what? I still don't want to deal with export/import as a user.
- diegoperini 7y agoI have a few suggestions in the comment section you may or may not find agreeable.
- macawfish 7y agoWith all due respect, this comes off as apologizing for Apple's disagreeable design choice. If anything, it should be on Apple and the browser vendors to make local storage more useful by default, not less useful. Your suggestions might as well be aimed at browser vendors, who could conceivably offer user friendly controls for local storage (e.g. import/export without the dev panel). But as is usually the case each of the browser vendors has these little annoying ways that they cripple the browser to protect their business models. Apple is no exception to this. Look at how they've hampered the WebGPU process. Look at the history of their PWA support.
- diegoperini 7y agoI strongly oppose Apple's anti-consumer practices in their App Store policy, PWA policy (non-existent) and similar places. I just believe this (localStorage policy) is not one of those cases. Agreeing with Apple's disagreeable design choices isn't an apology, it's an honest opinion. If these choices are disagreeable, which I believe they are, they must be also agreeable by definition.
- vbezhenar 7y agoThere's one simple thing that Apple could do. Do not delete local data if user bookmarked page from that website (or pinned it to home screen for mobile devices). Now bookmarked website treated like an "app" with slightly less restrictions and some random website data will be eventually purged (although I believe that 7 days should be extended to few months).
- diegoperini 7y agoThis is a great idea. Long forgotten bookmarks now has a purpose. I wish someone pitched this to all browsers out there.
- saagarjha 7y ago> If anything, it should be on Apple and the browser vendors to make local storage more useful by default, not less useful. Not if the features allow for increased web tracking.
- Grue3 7y ago> Not if the features decrease the need for the App Store Fixed it for you. It's all about profit.
- vbezhenar 7y agoI don't think that web tracking must be fought at expense of user UI. It's fine to fight web tracking by introducing measures that don't break honest websites. It's not fine to fight web tracking or anything by crippling user experience with honest websites.
- cmsj 7y agoYou want all your important apps to migrate to a platform where their data is all tucked away in inscrutable filesystem locations that don't expire ever?