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That’s a very rosy way of looking at it. iOS has had bugs with its “add to home screen” webapps that kicked around literally for years. If they were being “user
by untog 7y ago
That’s a very rosy way of looking at it. iOS has had bugs with its “add to home screen” webapps that kicked around literally for years. If they were being “user first” they’d support it fully or not support it at all. Instead they implemented then neglected it.
- machello13 7y agoHow many users even know or care about that feature?
- untog 7y agoHow is that relevant to the conversation? If it is so little-used as to be irrelevant then the user-first thing to do would be to remove the functionality but Apple haven’t. I can speak from personal experience that users do use it when you include specific instructions on how to use it. And it’s used in a number of corporate settings for installing webapps on an iPad.
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- dirkgently 7y agoOnce you take your head out of that iAss, you may see how defensive and idiotic your comment is.
- fcarraldo 7y agoWhat bugs exactly? Been using this feature for years and have never had issues with it.
- saagarjha 7y agoUntil a recent iOS release they had a number of undesirable features that made them a bit inconvenient to use: they used UIWebView (instead of the faster WKWebView), they "restarted" if you ever left them, and generally had a number of other quirks.
- jedieaston 7y agoProbably because Apple giving a crap about web apps was depreciated with the release of iPhone OS 2.0 and the App Store over a decade ago. I'd bet few users even use the "add to home screen" button outside of corporate environments that want to add a shortcut to internal sites.
- dzhiurgis 7y agoFacebook messenger is good use case for web app, but zuck want's to track you so you need to install app instead...
- enos_feedler 7y agoTry sending an AR video capture to someone over the web, lol
- dzhiurgis 7y agoI'm sure there's more efficient ways to send text messages lol
- akmarinov 7y agoTo be fair, they've had bugs in iOS they've kicked around for years...
- madeofpalk 7y agoAll parts of Apple's platform has had bugs that have kicked around for literally years. Their native SDK is infamously under documented and has all sorts of bugs https://twitter.com/caseyliss/status/1171778706878160897 https://twitter.com/caseyliss/status/1171778706878160897 The bugs in Apple's software, whether in web or native or in documentation are not part of some nefarious plot, its just a part of Apple's mismanagement and relatively minimal resources.
- MFLoon 7y ago> relatively minimal resources Uh, they're the most well capitalized corporation in the world (or hovering in the top 3 plus or minus a few quarters). They have the resources to make it work if they wanted. There are undoubtedly thousands of engineers, hundreds of managers, and at least a handful of execs, working for Apple, lurking in this HN thread today, not because they're unaware of their ongoing sabotage of web standards on iOS, but because they're completely aware of it and want to take the temperature on how their latest kick to the shins of PWAs is going over.
- millstone 7y agoApple really does run with very small software teams. It's cultural.
- madeofpalk 7y agoI’m fully aware of how much cash Apple has, but they’re known for having very relatively small software teams looking after whatever app needs updating that release. I wouldn’t be surprised if Safari/WebKit was one of the larger teams within Apple dedicated to a single app.
- saagarjha 7y agoYou’re between one to two orders of magnitude off in you estimate of the size of Apple’s web technologies team.