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At this point "severe permanent damage" is pure speculation.

by rimliu 7y ago

downerending 7y ago
I don't have the link, but there was a study of the SARS outbreak that indicated that something like 20% of the victims were unable to return to their prior professions. It's a different, though related virus, but there is some reason to believe that at least some victims will have lasting effects.
- tartoran 7y ago
  https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars...
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Der_Einzige 7y ago
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen on a HN post. You should get an award for how bad this post is before it's removed for endangering the public. No, it is NOT pure speculation. We have plenty of CT scans showing permanent lung scaring in thousands of patients.
aaron695 7y ago
Could someone please link a fucking study or report that talks numbers showing permanent damage if you disagree with this? If it's true, link it. We have 20,000 dead it should not be hard to find. The BEST I've seen so far is a study of 12 people https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-recovery-dama...
- tartoran 7y ago
  https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars...
  - aaron695 7y ago
    Exactly that is SARS which had a mortality of 15% I don't really understand why it's linked. We are making the claim Covid-19 has a really low mortality, much lower than the 1% claimed. But even at 1% your link in not relevant. So the question stands to the downvoters, one fucking link? Are you all Russian trolls? Why do you think covid-19 does permanent damage. Where is this coming from? I've linked the only study I've seen.
    - tartoran 7y ago
      Hey, don’t be rude, be civil please. Any flu can leave permanent damage or scar tissue to the lungs. SARS did more than others. We don’t know much about coronavirus because it’s happening right now but the assumption was that it could leave some survivors with problems. Why are you so angry? I didn’t downvote you
      - Gibbon1 7y ago
        Scuttlebutt far as I know is people that get pneumonia often have long lasting issues. People like the guy you're replying to are angry because their comfortable worldview is being challenged and hard.
      - aaron695 7y ago
        Quoting myself in this wider thread - 'people who get the normal flu also get permanent damage' If there are assumptions about Covid-19 damages I want a link. The Russians trolls clearly know they can do more damage to the USA these coming weeks that normally would take years. They clearly will be here in some capacity. This fear of damages to the body over death is clearly being used as a tool by multiple parties. I want them accountable. Don't care if it's the WHO or Russian Tolls or crazies. If they are right they will have links. (And I addressed the above to downvoters not you sorry, people with comment history I trust)
earonesty 7y ago
If you're over 40, and you cough, there's a chance you microtear your lungs. If you cough up blood for weeks, yes... you will increase pulmonary fibrosis (fancy word for lung scars). That's true for every flu you get... but this one is way harder on the lungs than any flu I've ever had. I'm having mild symptoms, but it's been weeks, fevers come and go, and honestly it's like nothing I've ever had before.

At this point "severe permanent damage" is pure speculation.

by rimliu 7y ago

At this point "severe permanent damage" is pure speculation.

I don't have the link, but there was a study of the SARS outbreak that indicated that something like 20% of the victims were unable to return to their prior professions. It's a different, though related virus, but there is some reason to believe that at least some victims will have lasting effects.

tartoran 7y ago
https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars...
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Der_Einzige 7y ago

That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen on a HN post. You should get an award for how bad this post is before it's removed for endangering the public. No, it is NOT pure speculation. We have plenty of CT scans showing permanent lung scaring in thousands of patients.

aaron695 7y ago

Could someone please link a fucking study or report that talks numbers showing permanent damage if you disagree with this? If it's true, link it. We have 20,000 dead it should not be hard to find. The BEST I've seen so far is a study of 12 people https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-recovery-dama...

tartoran 7y ago
https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars...
- aaron695 7y ago
  Exactly that is SARS which had a mortality of 15% I don't really understand why it's linked. We are making the claim Covid-19 has a really low mortality, much lower than the 1% claimed. But even at 1% your link in not relevant. So the question stands to the downvoters, one fucking link? Are you all Russian trolls? Why do you think covid-19 does permanent damage. Where is this coming from? I've linked the only study I've seen.
  - tartoran 7y ago
    Hey, don’t be rude, be civil please. Any flu can leave permanent damage or scar tissue to the lungs. SARS did more than others. We don’t know much about coronavirus because it’s happening right now but the assumption was that it could leave some survivors with problems. Why are you so angry? I didn’t downvote you
    - Gibbon1 7y ago
      Scuttlebutt far as I know is people that get pneumonia often have long lasting issues. People like the guy you're replying to are angry because their comfortable worldview is being challenged and hard.
    - aaron695 7y ago
      Quoting myself in this wider thread - 'people who get the normal flu also get permanent damage' If there are assumptions about Covid-19 damages I want a link. The Russians trolls clearly know they can do more damage to the USA these coming weeks that normally would take years. They clearly will be here in some capacity. This fear of damages to the body over death is clearly being used as a tool by multiple parties. I want them accountable. Don't care if it's the WHO or Russian Tolls or crazies. If they are right they will have links. (And I addressed the above to downvoters not you sorry, people with comment history I trust)

earonesty 7y ago

If you're over 40, and you cough, there's a chance you microtear your lungs. If you cough up blood for weeks, yes... you will increase pulmonary fibrosis (fancy word for lung scars). That's true for every flu you get... but this one is way harder on the lungs than any flu I've ever had. I'm having mild symptoms, but it's been weeks, fevers come and go, and honestly it's like nothing I've ever had before.