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Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven'

by ArnoVW 7y ago

Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven't been fined out of existence yet.

sdoering 7y ago
Probably because nobody in the EU currently has this company on their screens. Or because those who are critical of this company and its practices have not yet reported it to the relevant authorities. In Germany not only the GDPR regulation but also the so-called "right to the own picture" applies here.This means that no one may use/sell pictures of a person without explicit consent. Therefore, photographers must also have an explicit release of the person for the respective context of use.
- cl3misch 7y ago
  There has been recent activity (article in german). The article claims you could ask for deletion of your data without uploading your ID. https://www.golem.de/news/gesichtserkennung-datenschuetzer-rechnet-mit-millionen-clearview-betroffenen-2003-147466.html https://www.golem.de/news/gesichtserkennung-datenschuetzer-r...
  - 101404 7y ago
    Clearwater did not obtain consent, so the data shouldn't be there in the first place. Each and every data protection Behörde here in Germany should be investigating this.
- BeniBoy 7y ago
  Well I would advise everybody to file a complaint to their local DPA. Even if you can oppose the processing, they rely on legitimate interest (doubtful their balancing act is acceptable) and they acquired the data in a legal way, they failed to inform the user of a second-hand data collection[1]. So If they have data on you, that is older than a month, and did not contacted you to inform you of it, you can file a complaint! [1]https://github.com/LINCnil/Guide-RGPD-du-developpeur/blob/master/12-Informer%20les%20utilisateurs.md https://github.com/LINCnil/Guide-RGPD-du-developpeur/blob/ma... (In French sorry)
Nextgrid 7y ago
Google and Facebook are still around, so the GDPR is an absolute joke of a law that nobody cares to enforce.
- lolc 7y ago
  You might be surprised: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
  - ilikehurdles 7y ago
    Search for how many of those enforcements came from Ireland. Now look up what country's GDPR authority Google and Facebook and most American companies are choosing to be subject to. It's not a coincidence that the place that hosts all US company's remote headquarters isn't participating in GDPR enforcement.
    - gpderetta 7y ago
      Ireland tried to give a great deal to Apple. The EU didn't take it very well [1]. I wouldn't be surprised if the EU will investigate Irish GDPR enforcement. edit: also France did fine Google just fine. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_illegal_State_aid_case_against_Apple_in_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_illegal_State_aid_case_agai...
Tonyfontana 7y ago
Just a correction - consent isnt the only legal basis. Thought it was important to correct you here so others reading the comment wouldn't get the impression that no consent = illegal

by ArnoVW 7y ago

Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven't been fined out of existence yet.

sdoering 7y ago

Probably because nobody in the EU currently has this company on their screens. Or because those who are critical of this company and its practices have not yet reported it to the relevant authorities. In Germany not only the GDPR regulation but also the so-called "right to the own picture" applies here.This means that no one may use/sell pictures of a person without explicit consent. Therefore, photographers must also have an explicit release of the person for the respective context of use.

cl3misch 7y ago
There has been recent activity (article in german). The article claims you could ask for deletion of your data without uploading your ID. https://www.golem.de/news/gesichtserkennung-datenschuetzer-rechnet-mit-millionen-clearview-betroffenen-2003-147466.html https://www.golem.de/news/gesichtserkennung-datenschuetzer-r...
- 101404 7y ago
  Clearwater did not obtain consent, so the data shouldn't be there in the first place. Each and every data protection Behörde here in Germany should be investigating this.
BeniBoy 7y ago
Well I would advise everybody to file a complaint to their local DPA. Even if you can oppose the processing, they rely on legitimate interest (doubtful their balancing act is acceptable) and they acquired the data in a legal way, they failed to inform the user of a second-hand data collection[1]. So If they have data on you, that is older than a month, and did not contacted you to inform you of it, you can file a complaint! [1]https://github.com/LINCnil/Guide-RGPD-du-developpeur/blob/master/12-Informer%20les%20utilisateurs.md https://github.com/LINCnil/Guide-RGPD-du-developpeur/blob/ma... (In French sorry)

Nextgrid 7y ago

Google and Facebook are still around, so the GDPR is an absolute joke of a law that nobody cares to enforce.

lolc 7y ago
You might be surprised: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
- ilikehurdles 7y ago
  Search for how many of those enforcements came from Ireland. Now look up what country's GDPR authority Google and Facebook and most American companies are choosing to be subject to. It's not a coincidence that the place that hosts all US company's remote headquarters isn't participating in GDPR enforcement.
  - gpderetta 7y ago
    Ireland tried to give a great deal to Apple. The EU didn't take it very well [1]. I wouldn't be surprised if the EU will investigate Irish GDPR enforcement. edit: also France did fine Google just fine. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_illegal_State_aid_case_against_Apple_in_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_illegal_State_aid_case_agai...

Tonyfontana 7y ago

Just a correction - consent isnt the only legal basis. Thought it was important to correct you here so others reading the comment wouldn't get the impression that no consent = illegal