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> The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. This could all have been stopped if the CPC had

> The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. This could all have been stopped if the CPC had acted earlier, not covered it up, not lied about human to human transmission, not advised that travel restriction and testing were unnecessary. > Dec. 27: Wuhan health officials are told that a new coronavirus is causing the illness. > Jan. 1: Wuhan Public Security Bureau brings in for questioning eight doctors who had posted information about the illness on WeChat. An official at the Hubei Provincial Health Commission orders labs, which had already determined that the novel virus was similar to SARS, to stop testing samples and to destroy existing samples. > Jan. 14: WHO announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus." > The bottom line: China is now trying to create a narrative that it's an example of how to handle this crisis when in fact its early actions led to the virus spreading around the globe. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coro...

ntsplnkv2 7y ago
That's true but its impacts could have been significantly reduced here if the US government hadn't covered it up either, or if Trump didn't dismiss it as a hoax. Trump did the same damn thing as China. And they all did it for the same damn selfish reason. Money and power. The west has deteriorated, that much is clear, and a big reason why clearly incapable populists, benefiting from information warfare, have taken many positions in western government.
- viklove 7y ago
  What did the US cover up? Yes Trump is incompetent, but that's pretty different than spreading known lies about it (like stating there was no human-human transmission), or hiding cases from the international community. > and a big reason why clearly incapable populists No, the reason is that in the west we're more resistive to storm troopers locking us into buildings and arresting people for being in public. An authoritarian nation that regularly suppresses free speech is obviously going to have an easier time dealing with this type of problem, but that's not something to admire.
  - ntsplnkv2 7y ago
    > And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that. > So a number that nobody heard of that I heard of recently and I was shocked to hear it, 35,000 people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that? 35,000. That’s a lot of people. It could go to 100,000, it could be 27,000, they say usually a minimum of 27, it goes up to 100,000 people a year who die, and so far we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States. Nobody. And it doesn’t mean we won’t, and we are totally prepared, it doesn’t mean we won’t. But think of it. You hear 35 and 40,000 people, and we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode. - POTUS > No, the reason is that in the west we're more resistive to storm troopers locking us into buildings and arresting people for being in public. An authoritarian nation that regularly suppresses free speech is obviously going to have an easier time dealing with this type of problem, but that's not something to admire. I think you've taken my paragraph out of context. I was talking about the deterioration of the west as a world leader and power - not the corona virus outbreak here.

ntsplnkv2 7y ago

That's true but its impacts could have been significantly reduced here if the US government hadn't covered it up either, or if Trump didn't dismiss it as a hoax. Trump did the same damn thing as China. And they all did it for the same damn selfish reason. Money and power. The west has deteriorated, that much is clear, and a big reason why clearly incapable populists, benefiting from information warfare, have taken many positions in western government.

viklove 7y ago
What did the US cover up? Yes Trump is incompetent, but that's pretty different than spreading known lies about it (like stating there was no human-human transmission), or hiding cases from the international community. > and a big reason why clearly incapable populists No, the reason is that in the west we're more resistive to storm troopers locking us into buildings and arresting people for being in public. An authoritarian nation that regularly suppresses free speech is obviously going to have an easier time dealing with this type of problem, but that's not something to admire.
- ntsplnkv2 7y ago
  > And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that. > So a number that nobody heard of that I heard of recently and I was shocked to hear it, 35,000 people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that? 35,000. That’s a lot of people. It could go to 100,000, it could be 27,000, they say usually a minimum of 27, it goes up to 100,000 people a year who die, and so far we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States. Nobody. And it doesn’t mean we won’t, and we are totally prepared, it doesn’t mean we won’t. But think of it. You hear 35 and 40,000 people, and we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode. - POTUS > No, the reason is that in the west we're more resistive to storm troopers locking us into buildings and arresting people for being in public. An authoritarian nation that regularly suppresses free speech is obviously going to have an easier time dealing with this type of problem, but that's not something to admire. I think you've taken my paragraph out of context. I was talking about the deterioration of the west as a world leader and power - not the corona virus outbreak here.