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What is the collective resolution? I'm assuming it's either everyone gets free rent, or nobody does, and I'm not sure which is being implied here.

swiley 7y ago
I'm able to pay my rent. If me paying mine means the newly unemployed people don't have to during this thing then I would prefer the situation that's unfair toward me. We really kick the lowest people into the dirt here and the place we do it the most is housing. It makes our economy extremely unstable, not to mention it's pretty unpleasant to know that you're only a couple mistakes away from being in a similar situation and to be around a bunch of people who feel the same way. It doesn't need to be like this, the US is mostly trees and all but the most dense places have lots of room for growth. We've prevented it and now it's time to pay for our mistakes.
- bsanr 7y ago
  Americans live in relatively huge houses, with tons of stuff that we don't need, use, or even get any sentimental value out of. I'm not saying we need to transform into Japan - it was truly nice to be able to visit wealthier family and their big houses with their "fk you" foyers and finished basements bigger than any apartment I've ever lived in - but the average American nuclear family does not need more then 2000 square feet (if that), day-to-day. Once you eliminate speculation on grandiose properties - which in turn drives up the prices of your given McMansion or SF bungalow - maybe you can figure out a way to provide everyone with decent, dignified housing that's appropriate for their family size and lifestyle. People like to say that the economy isn't zero sum, nosiree, but it's mighty suspicious how much homelessness rises in cities where apartments go for 7 figures cash, or $3k+ a month in rent.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
    This moral grandstanding is not helpful. If you want to talk to about the endemic problems of American housing I'm happy to, after this pandemic has passed. Until then, we all should be focused on solving the immediate problems and helping each other. Pointing fingers at the broken bits and complaining about them distracts everyone.

swiley 7y ago

I'm able to pay my rent. If me paying mine means the newly unemployed people don't have to during this thing then I would prefer the situation that's unfair toward me. We really kick the lowest people into the dirt here and the place we do it the most is housing. It makes our economy extremely unstable, not to mention it's pretty unpleasant to know that you're only a couple mistakes away from being in a similar situation and to be around a bunch of people who feel the same way. It doesn't need to be like this, the US is mostly trees and all but the most dense places have lots of room for growth. We've prevented it and now it's time to pay for our mistakes.

bsanr 7y ago
Americans live in relatively huge houses, with tons of stuff that we don't need, use, or even get any sentimental value out of. I'm not saying we need to transform into Japan - it was truly nice to be able to visit wealthier family and their big houses with their "fk you" foyers and finished basements bigger than any apartment I've ever lived in - but the average American nuclear family does not need more then 2000 square feet (if that), day-to-day. Once you eliminate speculation on grandiose properties - which in turn drives up the prices of your given McMansion or SF bungalow - maybe you can figure out a way to provide everyone with decent, dignified housing that's appropriate for their family size and lifestyle. People like to say that the economy isn't zero sum, nosiree, but it's mighty suspicious how much homelessness rises in cities where apartments go for 7 figures cash, or $3k+ a month in rent.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
  This moral grandstanding is not helpful. If you want to talk to about the endemic problems of American housing I'm happy to, after this pandemic has passed. Until then, we all should be focused on solving the immediate problems and helping each other. Pointing fingers at the broken bits and complaining about them distracts everyone.